Michael ThingnesJan 5
Norbert Heger
I guess someone at Apple must enjoy looking at toolbars like this from time to time. I don’t.
Dec 25 at 9:28pmWeb
Show threadslyborgDec 25
@noheger The beauty of this whole interface redesign is that in 5 years it will get a big refactoring to suck less and Apple will hail it as a huge advance and a major reason to upgrade…
Show threaddxzdbDec 25
@slyborg @noheger Yeah - Apple just said "bye" to that Dye guy so it will take a while to recover.
Show threadJonathan HendryDec 25

@dxzdb @slyborg @noheger

Assuming he was the critical driving factor.

Show threaddxzdbDec 25
@jonhendry @slyborg @noheger True - given his reputation I'm sure it didn't help. I remember some of the Apple folks on the WWDC panel reacting to incredulous Dev's seeming sort of frustrated and saying: Submit feedback...
Show threadJonathan HendryDec 25

@slyborg @noheger

"it will get a big refactoring to suck less"

That's what we hope for (but sooner). Yet at this point, based on recent performance, it's entirely possible it could get worse.

Show threadJimmyJan 5

@slyborg @noheger it won't get a huge redesign. Just like iOS 7 (which was also damn near unusable), there will be small iterations every year to improve it.

Remember - iOS 18, the thing people want to go back to - is a direct descendant of iOS 7, but with a decade of improvements. Liquid Glass will get there, also.

Show threadhaskinsJan 10
@slyborg @noheger … or it could get worse.
Show threadrogelinDec 25
@noheger It will not be a shame if Apple assume Liquid Glass was a mistake and roll the UI components back to High Sierra era.
Show threadKyle HaleviJan 2
@rogelin @noheger We need to go way earlier than this
Show thread(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Jan 4
@noheger @gruber It looks dramatically better in dark mode. It’s like the forgot about light mode
Show threadNorbert HegerJan 4
@tweece @gruber Well, I wouldn’t call this dramatically better…
Show threadJesse R EwingJan 4
@noheger Jesus.
Show threadDarryl RammJan 4

@noheger

We just need all the people at Apple who were responsible for this crock of shit on macOS to form an orderly line.

Show threadChris HansonJan 4
@noheger God I hate this translucent-everything borders-on-nothing shit. I hated it in Mac OS X 10.0 and I hate it now. Last year’s UI with translucency cranked down was pretty close to a good evolution of the System 7 interface and should have just kept going along those lines but the graphic designers who think they’re HI professionals at Apple always get their way.
Show threadChris HansonJan 4
@noheger They’re the type who respond to bug reports—when they deign to read them at all, “that’s not how we work”—containing detailed feedback by other professionals with “This design was approved at the highest levels. Please close.” Instead of, you know, actually taking the feedback seriously and bringing it to the executives who approved the prior iteration in their next meeting.
Show threadLuke HandJan 5
@noheger why is there a Paused blob at the top of my screen? 😩 I thought we were moving controls to the bottom of screens? So many little ‘just works’ things in iOS aren’t bothered with anymore. Sad.
Show threadMarc Robinson Jan 5
@lukehand @noheger Controls are still at the bottom. Tap ▶️ to Play. When it's playing, tap ⏸️ to pause. The blob at the top is not a control, it's just a status.
Show threadLuke HandJan 5
@marcintosh tapping the blob also plays/pauses. Like we need another control on screen. This is part of what’s annoying about the state of iOS at the moment - there’s a lot of ‘oh well just add x on this screen to help this particular situation on this particular screen’. Breaks consistency and predictably. 🤷‍♂️
Show threadfamousringoJan 5
@noheger for decades, we’ve been telling people that transparent Minority Report UIs only work in movies because they’re post-production and camera visibility is paramount, and here comes no less than Apple to prove us right.
Show threadAllan ChowJan 5
@noheger the floaty trend needs to stop
Show threadAnn EffesJan 5
@noheger Son Scheiss.
Show threadalex.tmJan 5
@noheger What a mess. Glad I chose not to “upgrade” to the latest version.
Show threadJames ScariatiJan 5
@noheger @gruber Aside from looking bad, it’s not even consistent: the middle column is blurred when behind the toolbar, but the right column isn’t. And the left column is blurred even when it’s not directly behind the sidebar, which is both illogical and also inconsistent with other apps. It literally looks like a work in progress that they just went ahead and shipped anyway. Really sloppy!
Show threadWenzel MassagJan 5
@noheger at first, I thought it was a rendering error.
Show threadJoe LionJan 5
@noheger I have an old Mac mini I use for some tasks, and it’s still on 10.10, Yosemite. It’s such a breath of fresh air to see Finder in 10.10. So clean (the screenshot is not my Mac, but it is 10.10)
Show threadMachielJan 5
@joelion @noheger holy shit, that looks great. Bit dated, but come on Apple: do a modern take on this. Tahoe is unacceptable
Show threadChrisJan 5
@noheger Don't even get me started on the ever-thinning scroll bars 😭
Show threadMarc Robinson Jan 5
@noheger What toolbar? 🤔
Show threadkaiserkiwi Jan 5
@noheger this is so incredibly ugly.
Show threadGleb DolgichJan 5
@noheger These are Alanbars
Show threadAvi Rappoport (avirr)Jan 6
@noheger Oy vey
Show threadwakest likes your bugs ⁂Jan 6
@noheger doesn't show like this on macOS 26.1 with Dark Mode, not sure if its the version or the dark mode setting though
Show threadmirthJan 6
@liaizon @noheger Is that with reduced transparency?
Show threadwakest likes your bugs ⁂Jan 6
@mirth @noheger nope thats not on
Show threadSteve BarnesJan 7

@liaizon –

Here's my window in 26.2:

Show threadmirthJan 6
@noheger This makes it look like they've joined the EssilorLuxottica global eyeglass cartel.