Salih KunduzOh yeah, totally forgot. It's been about a year and a week with Android now. Over all I'm really satisfied, Google has improved talkback a lot. The one and only annoying thing is typing, that's really a disaster and I'm glad I have vision left so I can turn off TB to type sometimes, or being able to attach a bluetooth keyboard. Otherwise though, I love being able to install apks and get updates right from the source like GitHub, Zoom, as well the camera zoom from the pixel 9 pro as well as the ability to Zoom anywhere with the accessibility button in the 3 button nav bar, which also features my best friend the back button, is great, not having to triple tap and swipe around laggy and weird like on IOS. Well, that's all. There are tons of other things I forgot for sure but I really enjoy what this is and would recommend. At some point, probably when I get a new phone whenever that is, I'll root or even gravin OS this thing, gonna be fun. Oh yeah and we have NVGT games, that's fun too.
@jonathan859 I'm glad I decided to stick to android. Android has been my OS for a while!
JamminJerry@jonathan859 how is the typing a disaster? just thought I would ask as I have been using android sense android Froyo if that tells you anything. smile.
@JamminJerry Well, I try to type with TalkBack and it's just slow and painful. I use GBoard, since it's the most compatible. I would like to use Heli Board for its visual customization features but wellp. But even with GBoard, Talkback announces letters twice, is just slow, gets stuck sometimes, Pixel 9 Pro btw. Where in compared to the iPhone, Voice Over flows over the keyboard like everything is awesome. I really love my Android but if I was fully blind this would probably be the dealbreaker for me.
@jonathan859 while moving over the keyboard might be a little slow, it really isn't that slow for me. the saying a letter twice, I don't see that at all. it says it when I have my finger on the letter, and then says it again when I lift my finger to let me know it typed that letter. you have one step down from the phone I have. I have the pixel 9 pro xl. what synth are you using on your android? some synths are faster at responding like vocalizer, eloquence, and ESpeak if you can actually understand that one. the google tts to me is a bit slower at responding to things, so I don't use it most of the time. I use the eloquence one, or vocalizer most of the time. sometimes I use the DecTalk one that I have to manually install as it isn't on the playstore.
@JamminJerry I use Eloquence. One moment let me record you an example.
@JamminJerry Hmm, right now it's actually quite ok now that I know why it always repeats the letter. It's annoying though, like sometimes I'll just instantly click a letter because I still see the keys, so I don't want it to repeat itself twice, also sometimes it would even go on for longer, and yeah there is a very noticeable delay when swiping around the keyboard to find a letter. I tried the mode where you have to double tap a letter and that one also kinda works, though it's way slower of course. Idk it just doesn't feel that polished. It's not impossible but I think I'd get frustrated if I had no vision and had to navigate around that. But as I said, I love it as a low vision person.
@jonathan859 I am actually totally blind myself, and for me while I will agree with you that it is a bit slower at moving around a keyboard quickly, other than that, as you saw, I don'thave too many issues. now if the arther in my fingers would just behave, I might do a bit better. smile.
@JamminJerry Hmm interesting, seems you're quite practised, I think I'm not yet in that kind of flow somehow.
@JamminJerry Thanks for the demo.
@jonathan859 you are quite welcome, and yes, for me it is mussle memory. I know people that are even better than me about it. smile.