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OpenStarsThose who literally deny the existence of the massacre in the Tiananmen Square, claiming that “nobody was killed” (or far more rarely, unapologetically stating that if they were, then they deserved it). Basically far-left extremists that exist in a world of “alternative facts” just like conservatives, the common denominator being that and simping for authoritarian regimes.
Words like “consent” tend not to matter to those holding that ideology.
“Tankie” does not come from Tiananmen Square, that is a common misconception. The term “tankie” is 33 years older than the Tiananmen Square massacre.
It originated to describe people who supported the 1956 Soviet Union military intervention in Hungary. Stalin sent in a bunch of T-35 tanks to crush the Hungarian Revolution. He was successful, and thousands of people died in the process.
Ever since then, “tankie” has been used as a derogatory term against Stalinists, Marxist-Leninists, communists, and leftists in general.
SomeonelolTo be fair, tanks seem to be a favored tool of these oppressive regimes. I’m personally not against communism, they have some good ideas like universal child care, guaranteed jobs, and housing (even though the latter may be considered sub-par by some). The problem comes when these fucking authoritarian cheerleaders come out and say communist governments were never oppressive.
ValmondExcept you’d not get that healthcare and the rest if you didn’t pay people off.
In theory it might seem fine, but in reality it was just a dictatorship, and quite a brutal one too.
mojofrododojoExcept you’d not get that healthcare and the rest if you didn’t pay people off.
eh docs and nurses are pretty fucking cool but don’t work for free. of course you’re going to pay people off, they need wages ffs
Communism = no currency. There doesn’t seem to be a whole lot of knowledge regarding communism in here. A bit of an echo chamber. It’s funny how so many can hate something so much without actually knowing what it is they’re hating. Ha.
…I’d prefer a single payer system where no one went without. Broke my nose while living in the UK and was impressed with their no bullshit system.
you can have democratic socialism of many flavors without going full on communism, and you’ll never get to communism from here, abject capitalism. I’d prefer denmark over…well, where has communism worked?
Like, I respect the medical professionals Cuba produces but would never want to live there.
You’re advocating for the “lesser evil” option without having a basic understanding of leftist ideology. It’s still capitalism, it’s still a terrible right winger framework.
you didn’t answer the question at all. call it whatever you want, I’d rather have something that I can see working - than something that I’ve never seen work. Unfettered capitalism is cancer, sure. But that’s not exclusive to capitalism - government without restraints usually is miserable - see the USSR.
if you can show me communism working I’m down to learn new things; but you can’t point at liberal social democracies and say “that’s still in the terrible right winger framework” when it’s functioning far better than the US or the communist countries I’ve seen.
Another data point would be great, but from my POV all I can see is left—(social democracies)—center-----right (capitalist fascism)
note there’s no (communist society) on that spectrum.
Communism has never been implemented. You’re unaware of what communism is, so how would you know anyways? Social Democracy Isn’t on the left side of the spectrum. There’s no such thing as a leftist that supports capitalism. Capitalism does not work without exploitation.
China is working towards communism, and the USSR made huge progress, all while at war with the west the entire time.
I’m busy reading and can’t be bothered to continue this conversation. Later.
ah there it is.
so it’s a utopian thing that’s never been accomplished, but we should throw out ‘known to work social democracy’ for never worked before but you’re just. SO. FUCKING. CERTAIN
you fucking oxygen thief cretin shitbag suckass motherfuckers are always so quick to tell everyone “tear it all down” but you don’t actually have JACK
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do you? squat. diddly fucking squat.
goddamn I can’t believe I wasted time expecting that maybe you had something valid up your sleeve.
I’m busy reading and can’t be bothered to continue this conversation. Later.
bro, there was no conversation, you fucking dolt
You libs sure are angry birds.