The downsides of running a fediverse platform

https://lemmy.world/post/40833480

The tankies?

Those who literally deny the existence of the massacre in the Tiananmen Square, claiming that “nobody was killed” (or far more rarely, unapologetically stating that if they were, then they deserved it). Basically far-left extremists that exist in a world of “alternative facts” just like conservatives, the common denominator being that and simping for authoritarian regimes.

Words like “consent” tend not to matter to those holding that ideology.

“Tankie” does not come from Tiananmen Square, that is a common misconception. The term “tankie” is 33 years older than the Tiananmen Square massacre.

It originated to describe people who supported the 1956 Soviet Union military intervention in Hungary. Stalin sent in a bunch of T-35 tanks to crush the Hungarian Revolution. He was successful, and thousands of people died in the process.

Ever since then, “tankie” has been used as a derogatory term against Stalinists, Marxist-Leninists, communists, and leftists in general.

To be fair, tanks seem to be a favored tool of these oppressive regimes. I’m personally not against communism, they have some good ideas like universal child care, guaranteed jobs, and housing (even though the latter may be considered sub-par by some). The problem comes when these fucking authoritarian cheerleaders come out and say communist governments were never oppressive.

The “oppression” you’re referring to is confiscating the properties of bourgeois capitalists and landlords, and imprisoning them and their accomplices in case of resistance. This confiscation and appropriation by the state id what makes free, universal care and other social benefits possible. It’s absurd to expect the features of communism without the policies behind them.

Also, the idea that authoritarian socialist governments just have a sadistic tendency to oppress and torture poor peasants is deeply unserious and a work of imagination created by western capitalist propaganda.

Citations in an uncensored medium needed.

“Confiscating the properties of <insert populist excuse here>, imprisoning them and their accomplices in case of resistance. This confiscation and appropriation by the state is what makes <insert idealistic talking points that funny enough always seem to fall by the way side in terms of a priority to rounding up people yet is always the goal supposedly being reached> possible.”

This seems like an instantiation of neocolonialism adlibs. Is your name Trump or Netanyahu by any chance?

This isn’t the checkmate you think it is.

“Fascists brush their teeth twice a day. You also brush your teeth. That means you are a fascist!!!”

Do not omit the context from the general notion. I am speaking of bourgeois industrialists who exploit the working class, and not native populations with the right to sovereignty.

So no citations, just the same old regurgitated propaganda that has been in the library stands for decades. I think we’ve reached common ground, you recognize you are basically proposing:

“Confiscating the properties of <insert populist excuse here>, imprisoning them and their accomplices in case of resistance. This confiscation and appropriation by the state is what makes <insert idealistic talking points that funny enough always seem to fall by the way side in terms of a priority to rounding up people yet is always the goal supposedly being reached> possible.”

And I’m just pointing it out. You speak of <insert populist excuse here> that only easily materializing in the caricatures you have in your mind but which you would do your best bourgeois impersonation to apply liberally if you ever got the power to do so. This isn’t the checkmate you think it is, you are just wearing a different brand of rhetoric that just ends up devolving in a pretty similar way.

This seems like an instantiation of neocolonialism adlibs.

Someone needs to tell Mohammed Mossadegh that he was doing neocolonialism when he nationalized the natural resources that had been stolen by British colonizers and that he’s exactly like Netanyahu for it. I guess the CIA was right to overthrow him, democracy be damned.

What an absolutely insane take.