stux⚑️Dec 27

Talking with anti-vaxxers always makes me angry..

..imagine telling to a mom who lived a few centuries ago that we COULD keep our kids from dying with the current technology

"But we don't since someone we know better then decades of research, millions of doctors and professionals"

It's child-abuse, plain and simple

Show threadjackcole
@stux My Mother had radical surgery on one leg, lived in an iron lung, and spent the rest of her life disabled. And because of the disability, she was unable to exercise and died in her 70s. But when the polio vaccine came out, she whipped her kids in to get as fast as she could. And none of her kids got polio. Imagine telling her she should avoid vaccinating her kids.
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Show threadAlexander Goeres π’€―Dec 27
@jackcole i fear that's the main reason for the anitvaxxers fervor. vaccinations worked so well that the general memory of the deseases they helped to fight got lost ...
Show threadHilaryDec 27

@jackcole @stux

This makes me think. Smallpox has been eradicated, via vaccination. Smallpox COULD be eradicated because of multiple specific factors:

*No animal nor environmental host - smallpox can't survive without an infected person

*Causes severe disease - people with smallpox are easily recognised so can be isolated

*Survivors have lifelong immunity.

For other infections, vaccines can be HIGHLY effective with no chance of eradication. Eradication isn't a test of vaccine usefulness.

Show threadHilaryDec 27

@jackcole @stux

So yeah, if anyone says, "There's a vaccine for X, so why is it still around" or "I had the vaccine for X but I still caught X":

Most infections are not like smallpox, meaning most vaccines are not like smallpox vaccine.

Vaccines for most infections do not eliminate all risk. They lower the risk of infection, and/or they lower the severity of infection if it does occur.

Yay vaccines. Vaccines WORK. But one should not expect eradication. That doesn't usually happen.

Show threadDark Phoenix πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ‡¬πŸ‡±πŸ‡΅πŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆDec 28
@regordane @jackcole @stux
yeah but there are samples in deep freeze in an unrevealed number of labs (including in Russia). Smallpox can survive extended freezing.
Right now, I am actually very glad that I am old enough to actually have gotten the vaccine.
Show threadWolfgang HagenDec 27

@jackcole @stux
I once had a patient who was a healthy kid till he was 6. Then polio struck him and for the rest of his life he could only move his right arm.

"The vaccine came five years too late for me." And he was so angry at the antivaxxers in the pandemia.

Show threadDark Phoenix πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ‡¬πŸ‡±πŸ‡΅πŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆDec 28
@docjosiahboone @jackcole @stux I recently saw a commercial for one of the child research and care hospitals (St. Jude, Shriners or ?) and I am pretty sure one of the kids had polio, and I wondered how a parent could do that to their child?
Show threadChupacabra 78704Dec 28
@jackcole @stux
I had a girlfriend in elementary school with braces. Kennedy is a heroin addicted idiot.
Show threadChupacabra 78704Dec 28
@jackcole @stux
I saw her recently. She moved to Austin too.
Show threadChupacabra 78704Dec 28
@jackcole @stux she was a helluva barrel racer. The braces protected her legs from injury of the barrels.
Show threadJohn CrowdenDec 28
@jackcole @stux growing up we knew kids with metal braces on legs. Horrible. Get vaccinated for everything.