Massive respect to his efforts so far. 🙏

#linux #linustorvalds

@itsfoss Thank goodness he refused.
Jobs simply wanted to eliminate the competition.

@estiben_sito @itsfoss

Possibly
But also, this was one year before OSX came out, so it might be they just wanted to have someone who knows a LOT about unix-like kernels and demanded an NDA?

Very good point there!
@itsfoss 信息时代的基础设施之一,respect

@itsfoss As a long user of MacOS, were I in Linus's position... Yeah, I can definitely see that choice.

System 7 and 8 worked but were definitely showing their age. OSX was a big bet and the right bet... But when it first came out it was overall slower than the OS it was intended to replace and required a lot of work to get to where it needed to be.

Hacking on someone else's decades of quick fixes doesn't sound nearly as fun as making your own mess.

@mark @itsfoss

This would tell why they needed a big-time kernel guru in 2000, a year before OSX came out! They probably recognized they had a problem and hoped Torvalds could be the key to a solution?

@itsfoss I don't blame him. My dislike of the MacOS kernel goes even further. I will not go into the lurid details but it's a good thing Steve Jobs didn't ring with a job offer, put it that way.
@itsfoss Citation Needed
@hub
ISBN 9781326194079 I'd think. "Just for Fun: The Story of an Accidental Revolutionary". Recommended.
@itsfoss

@itsfoss Like a position at Apple is something to be all doe eyed about to begin with!

Linus must have laughed at the idea actually.

@itsfoss it is what is called "walk the talk"!
@itsfoss I named a ship after this cat in one of my books.
@itsfoss Fortunatly he did that, can't imagine what present we would have if he didn't shut the door to that job🤔 , a windobe/macos monopole ugh
@itsfoss I think 2000 was a bit late for that anyway, by that point linux was already on the way to global domination on servers

@kyonshi @itsfoss

That's the reason Apple decided to go for UNIX when they developed OSX that was published in 2001. And going for UNIX without knowing *that* much about it yet was a reason they really felt they needed someone like Torvalds.

@itsfoss Ditto MASSIVE respect for Linus Benedict Torvalds!
@itsfoss Where is Steve Jobs these days?

@kenshinhimuraw @itsfoss

He died of disinformation.

He had a form of cancer with a reasonable survival rate, but declined all useful forms of treatment because he believed more in some anti-vaxxer level shit.
When he finally changed course, the cancer was so advanced that he died soon after.

@itsfoss Yeah, also from what I've heard about working for Jobs, all I can say is: Bullet. Freaking. Dodged.
@itsfoss source?
What if Linus Torvalds Would Have Accepted Steve Jobs Offer?

Linus Torvalds, the man behind the wonderful project Linux and Git was offered a job by Steve Jobs, the founder of Apple Inc.

What if Linus Torvalds Would Have Accepted Steve Jobs Offer?
@itsfoss Microsoft should sue: embrace, extend, extinguish is their trademark!
@itsfoss I'm pretty sure the position he offered was "doggy style:, but Linus wasn't interested in getting butt-fukked and we should all be happy about THAT!
@itsfoss There’s a cool tenacity in Finns. It’s nice to see the world acknowledging that.
@itsfoss Yes, he's not only a terrifying smart person, he had and still has convictions! And he was not selling them for anything.
Rare traits nowadays, even this happened 25 years ago, i'm sure that he still wouldn't do it, even if Linux wouldn't have had become that successful.
@itsfoss macos x 10.0 was released in march 2001, interesting that torvalds would have already had an opinion on it a year prior
@dan @itsfoss version was not specified? Mac OS 8 was released in 1997.

@tony @itsfoss well, I bought a tangerine imac in ~ 1999 so I can fully understand why Torvalds would not have liked macos 8 (soooo crashy ...) but it's a fundamentally different system than macos x - no XNU, no BSD, nothing Unixy about it at all.

https://www.theverge.com/2012/3/22/2893581/linus-torvalds-linux-founder-turned-down-steve-jobs-offer has a little more detail, although the link to Wired is dead now. Looks like it was Mach he was objecting to

Linux creator turned down Apple job offer from Steve Jobs

In an interview with Wired, Linux creator Linus Torvalds discusses turning down a job offer from Apple CEO Steve Jobs, as well his work with the influential Linux platform.

The Verge
@dan @itsfoss yeah I'm aware that OSX was a whole different beast from the previous operation systems although my first Mac was OSX. Thanks for digging up more info, The Verge seems to be behind a paywall but I take your word for it 🙂

@itsfoss

Steve Jobs in 1989 offered me a job at NeXT when I was working on WAIS (pre-Web publishing system Wide Area Information Server), but he said they did not do open protocols, they 'published' theirs (ours was z39.50).

I declined.

@itsfoss yeah so called foss people spending absurd amounts of money on their darling fruit cult while complaining about cost of living when they - so called "techies" - can easily get better hardware and install linux or android custom rom. No... Have to give money to the only "good" corporation around hoping to see the second coming of Jobs.
@itsfoss Huge respect to Linus and all the great folks supporting #opensource and #linux ! Thank You.
@itsfoss I think both platforms have done extremely well for themselves. The #Mac remains a content creators dream, as well as #macOS powering billions of iOS devices. #Linux on the other hand is the backbone of the Internet, embedded devices, AI, large data centers and the Cloud.
@adacosta True, macOS does have its perks...
@itsfoss I'm soooooooooooooooo glad he did this !!!!!!! 🤩
#Linux since 1999
Now #opensuse
@itsfoss Drop an i-phone and a Nokia 3210 from 2m height on the ground.
Which one will break?
@itsfoss With Mac OS X, Apple switched to the BSD kernel in 2001. Presumably, he was told that.
@itsfoss Cyberworld's freedom fighter.
@itsfoss
Blud, has been, and continues to be a legend.