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Show threadTill KleisliDec 22
@Tutanota most of it is easy to switch, but android is a tough cookie...
Show threadDiscrecyDec 22
@kleisli @Tutanota not at all get an e/OS (Fairphone?) and get a peace of mind from all the slop is going on.
Show threadSnep Dec 22

@Discrecy @kleisli @Tutanota Does e/OS pass the Play integrity check or offer a reliable and stable way of spoofing them that doesn't break on updates? And does it offer Android Auto to use features of your phone like navigation safely whilst driving?

But besides, a blanket "just get a new device" is always a terrible advice for any software related issues and shows it's *not* that easy to just switch away from stock Android.

Show threadDiscrecyDec 22
@snep @kleisli @Tutanota it is as easy as more than you think! Google android or any other one really sucks and hungry for getting your attention. Have you ever tried it?
Show threadSnep Dec 22

@Discrecy @kleisli @Tutanota Yes. I'm running Lineage on my Pixel 4a since the beginning of the year and have been an avid custom ROM user until SafetyNet made running certain apps a true pain years ago.

Android Auto only works with a Gapps package that includes it and most banking apps, especially the 2FA/TAN apps, will complain or in the worst case efuse to open at all.

Even Magisk + MagiskHide with a few addons is only a stop-gap measure as that regularely breaks with PlayIntegrity updates.

Show threadSnep 
@Discrecy @kleisli @Tutanota But if e/OS somehow managed to bypass the Play Integrity checks reliably and without breaking on every update and (even by flashing an extra package or whatever) offers Android Autio functionality, then I'll be thoroughly surprised and might consider a deeper look!
Dec 22 at 5:00pmWeb
Show threadDiscrecyDec 22
@snep @kleisli @Tutanota Give it a try, everything is stable for now, banking apps, notifications and calls... apart from slow updates and Android Auto never tried so I am not sure about it, Maps apps with location like using the bike works pretty fine.
Show threadSnep Dec 22

@Discrecy It appears as though e/OS does nothing special in terms of Play Integrity, so the few apps I use that rely on passing more than the Basic Device Integrity would still fail unless I do the same Magisk module spiel I'm doing on Lineage. Unless you have a specific tutorial or other docs stating otherwise?

Updates are luckily quite fast on Lineage with nightly builds, though I tend to wait a bit between updates due to usual work and personal life time constraints.

Show threadSnep Dec 22
@Discrecy (For the record, Android Auto is much preferred over regular Maps apps of any sort as it allows interacting and seeing the map not only on the small phone screen sitting in some cradle or holder, but right on the center console screen and sometimes even the dashboard on new enough cars, it's quite nice *when it works*)
Show threadDiscrecyDec 22

@snep @kleisli @Tutanota You are the luckiest person on earth, they just release it few hours ago.

https://doc.e.foundation/support-topics/android-auto

How to setup Android Auto with /e/OS?

Show threadSnep Dec 22
@Discrecy But thank you for that info, seems like they do pretty much the same procedure of installing the base Google apps required for Auto to run as other custom ROMs do, but in an easier fashion through their app market place it seems. So yay, a small win for ease of use over flashing a Gapps package, I suppose!