Something that hasn't been made clear: Firefox will have an option to completely disable all AI features.

We've been calling it the AI kill switch internally. I'm sure it'll ship with a less murderous name, but that's how seriously and absolutely we're taking this.

All AI features will also be opt-in. I think there are some grey areas in what 'opt-in' means to different people (e.g. is a new toolbar button opt-in?), but the kill switch will absolutely remove all that stuff, and never show it in future. That's unambiguous.

I'm not asking for faith in our direction - the thing I love about the Firefox community is how open, honest, and technical it is.

But I do ask that you don't have the opposite of faith. Like, try not to be determined that we're going to do the wrong thing here.

I hope we can (re)gain your trust here.

I don't personally work on this stuff, but I'll try hard to answer any questions you have.

And other than that, I'll get back in my lane, and stick to web platform stuff.

- Jake (@jaffathecake)

Just be glad this thread wasn't a long-ass video. It almost was.
@firefoxwebdevs Yeah I think most people mainly deplore the hype and the resources spent on technological trends whose benefits are not always obvious. Before that, Mozilla advertised about FirefoxOS, before killing it to focus on IoT, before moving on to blockchain, then crypto, then NFT's and now IA. In more that 10 years, none of this projects produced anything useful for the users.
@firefoxwebdevs Right now, Mozilla would probably be the first company to be diagnosed with ADHD. It really can't seem to focus and do something productive. The question was never "should Firefox have IA?". The question is "to do what?". Mozilla is communicating that IA is coming. Not announcing a new feature. TBH, it's worrying. IA should be an implementation detail, not the central point.

@firefoxwebdevs It's like Mozilla is a car company and it's advertising a new car with leather in it. Ok, cool but what is it? A berline, a pickup, a SUV? Will I recharge with electricity or fuel? And Mozilla's answer is: "it has leather in it!"

It's… not great.

@christophehenry @firefoxwebdevs look, you have a point about communication. It's hard and Mozilla isn't top notch at it, to be polite. But also, Mozilla never worked on IOT, nor blockchain nor crypto stuff. There were vague talks of transitioning some of the Firefox OS resources into IOT exploration for a very brief time, which didn't end up happening so I'll give you that one. But where the hell hell is the rest coming from?

@nical

There have been some hysterical responses to the Mozilla AI announcements, with a number of people instantly swearing off Firefox forever.

Frankly, I'll leave it and see what actually happens. Firefox is too important for the things I do.

They can play around with so-called "AI" a bit, so long as it's truly private, free software and I can completely remove it if I wish (which I probably do).

@ecadre
@nical
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To me this is not about AI part. It's about jumping wagons again without clear plan or future. @christophehenry put it best: "to do what?"

Firefox crossed multiple lines in the past especially on the management front (e.g., extravaganza salaries, mass layoffs,...) but this time around, I think perhaps it I should acknowledge my Stockholm Syndrome and jump off this sinking ship. It might not sink, but it for sure doesn't deserve my attention and trust.

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@ecadre
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@firefoxwebdevs

Despite lack of essential features (e.g., changing keyboard shortcuts), relatively slow speed, polluting home folder, outdated UI design (until few years back), community stayed behind #Mozilla, and more specially #Firefox. Look where 1.5 decades of trust and support have got us to. Don't answer me, just be honest with yourself. After 15 years of being in the community, I cannot recall a single instance that user feedback was taken into account.

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@Mehrad @ecadre @nical @firefoxwebdevs Mozilla's usual spiel of "anyone having an opinion on Firefox is by definition a power user, and therefore not our target audience, so their opinion is irrelevant" has left me with little interest of giving them any benefit of doubt.