On iOS and macOS I just use Safari because it's there... until I saw how gross it looked on Tahoe. So on my work computer I just use Vivaldi because this is what I started using on Windows and Linux after seeing how Mozilla is behaving.

After reading librewolf and waterfox blog posts about how Mozilla is shitting the bed, I've decided to try them out.

First up was Librewolf, and I'm fairly enthused by it.

But it all comes with a tremendous loss of faith in general of Firefox and its downstream spins.

Browsers in general have to be these monstrous and disgustingly complicated things largely because we let companies like google define a platform built with the principal goal of surveillance and tracking in exchange for what exactly?

Computing really kinda sucks these days in no small part to the brainrot foisted into the world heaved by this shit shovel.

Everything we had that was tremendous and inspiring is dead or dying.

@photex I've been happy with Librewolf, I think it's been a few years. I relaxed one or two settings (to retain more state across restarts I think?). I keep other browsers around out of habit, but I rarely use them.

The updater tool for windows is less slick than chrome, but it works well enough for me.

@ojrac I shall make it a part of my December adventures then! :D

Because it isn't like Vivaldi is some exceptional alternative either.. and before this year I've used Firefox pretty much exclusively since it existed.

it's really weird when you think about it in those terms too. Multiple decades of trust being flushed down the toilet by the current Mozilla leadership right now. (I guess, that's not very different from a lot of other corners of tech right now)

@photex Yeah, trust (or just user inertia) is too valuable not to draw vultures, and "near the top of the roller coaster" is the best time to cash out.

I really like having access to ublock, and I assume it's either gone or close to it on chromium. But this whole conversation is my motivation for a token donation to servo.