MicroWaveDec 17

AOC leads JD Vance for first time in 2028 election matchup: poll

https://lemmy.world/post/40326709

AOC leads JD Vance for first time in 2028 election matchup: poll - Lemmy.World

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez holds a slight lead over Vice President JD Vance in a hypothetical 2028 presidential matchup, according to a new poll. The New York Democratic congresswoman, known as AOC, edges the likely Republican nominee 51% to 49%, in The Argument/Verasight survey released on Tuesday. However, the result was within the poll’s 2.7 percentage point margin of error, making the two candidates statistically tied. The poll asked voters who they would vote for if the election was between the two of them.

Show threadskozziiDec 17

I’m all for a women president eventually, but perhaps the elections during an attempted fascist take over isn’t the time.

Some men will simply not vote for a woman, it’s sad, but it’s reality. If a woman is on the ballot the democrats will lose again.

The time will come, just not yet with stakes this high. I would love to see AOC as the first female president.

Show threadWoodScientistDec 17

Attitudes like yours are why Democrats lose elections. We talk ourselves out of our best candidates. We try to compromise with Republicans right out the gate, and try to select the more moderate ‘electable’ candidate.

Your line of thinking got us Kerry, Clinton, and Biden.

Trying to select a candidate based on “electability” is bullshit, because you just end up selecting for the most uninspiring centrist who can’t get people to the polls.

Or in short, you have no damn idea what electability means.

Show threadjayboneDec 17

This argument is frequently made on Lemmy. I’d like it to be true. But I just don’t know.

Makes sense in places like California or New York. But I don’t know about places in the Midwest e.g.

Show threadWoodScientist
If Britain and Mexico can both elect a woman to lead their country, why can’t the US?
Dec 17 at 5:57pmWeb
Show threadjayboneDec 17
Because half of the people who voted in the last election voted for Trump?
Show threadWoodScientistDec 17
So?
Show threadDarkFutureDec 17

why can’t the US?

Because this is a trashcan nation that votes for felon rapist insurrectionist pedophiles…twice.

Show threadWoodScientistDec 17
You’re just doing the left version of American exceptionalism.
Show threadZinkDec 18
Most supporters voted for him thrice. Just another old white dude got in the way that one time.
Show threadJcbAzPxDec 18
More like a worldwide pandemic got in the way. Biden couldn’t have won without covid.
Show threadvaultdweller013Dec 17
Because a solid percentage of the country quite literally wants women barefoot and pregnant, with another solid percentage following along with them because something something taxes something something jerbs.
Show threadWoodScientistDec 17
This is just the woke version of American exceptionalism. Conservatives exist in all countries. Hell, Mexico is famous for its machismo culture.
Show threadZinkDec 18

I think you guys can both be correct here. Just because shitty people are all over the Earth, that does not negate the problems people point out with the US.

I did not see them say or even imply that the US is the only place with sexist conservatives, or that we are the worst in the world about it. It was answering a question about the US too.

I think we all know that there are places in the world that have been far worse for far longer in just about any bad way you can think of. But it’s still pretty noteworthy when the world’s superpower that once saw itself as a diverse melting pot and land of opportunity and democracy goes and elects somebody who literally said on TV that they would be a dictator. And this after that same person already did a horrible bad faith job for all the world to see.