Taggart 
I don't have any energy to give to a new Mozilla CEO announcement so I'm just gonna point you here, which still holds true.
missed_sla@mttaggart What is the alternative? At this point it's like ... dillo is the only browser that isn't smearing LLM feces all over itself.
@missed_sla Not true! Vivaldi has committed to keeping LLMs out of the browser. I use it daily and am very happy with it. https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/vivaldi-wont-allow-a-machine-to-lie-to-you/
Dan "18pF flip-flop"@mttaggart @missed_sla The Vivaldi post you linked did not commit to that; it says LLMs won’t be bundled into the browser “until more rigorous ways to do those things [that other browsers are experimenting with] are available”, and the last couple paragraphs also explicitly left the door open for different kinds of AI-based features.
@dcominottim @missed_sla Here's a more recent one: https://vivaldi.com/blog/keep-exploring/
Vivaldi is the haven for people who still want to explore. We will continue building a browser for curious minds, power users, researchers, and anyone who values autonomy. If AI contributes to that goal without stealing intellectual property, compromising privacy or the open web, we will use it. If it turns people into passive consumers, we will not.
While that is a conditional, it is a condition that gen AI can never meet.
@mttaggart @missed_sla Thanks for the link. It’s keeping up with their previous stance — which seems reasonable —, but it uses the very same statements from the other post.
@dcominottim @missed_sla I don't really know what you want here.
@mttaggart @missed_sla I don’t mean to nitpick or die on a hill; it’s simply that Vivaldi has made no commitment whatsoever not to add AI or LLMs into the browser — they’re just keeping a seemingly responsible, ethical, and human-friendly stance while explicitly saying they’re open to changing that decision when/if the tech matures and they find uses that fit into their ethos.
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