I dunno

I feel like I am getting trolled

Isn’t 17 the actual right answer?

Inside the parens first, so it becomes 2 + 5*3

Then tou do multiplication before addition, so 2 + 15

Then addition, so 17

Yeah I know that. But I was feeling confused as to why it was here. That’s why I was feeling trolled, because it made me doubt basic math for being posted in a memes community.

They did the joke wrong. To do it right you need to use the ÷ symbol. Because people never use that after they learn fractions, people treat things like a + b ÷ c + d as

a + b ----- c + d

Or (a + b) ÷ (c + d) when they should be treating it as a + (b ÷ c) + d.

That’s the most common one of these “troll math” tricks. Because notating as

a + b + d - c

Is much more common and useful. So people get used to grouping everything around the division operator as if they’re in parentheses.

Or
12 / 2(6) And trying to argue this is 36.
The P in PEMDAS means to solve everything within parentheses first; there is no “distribution” step or rule that says multiplying without a visible operator other than parentheses comes first. So yes, 36 is valid here. It’s mostly because PEMDAS never shows up in the same context as this sort of multiplication or large fractions

The P in PEMDAS means to solve everything within parentheses first

and without a(b+c)=(ab+ac), now solve (ab+ac)

there is no “distribution” step or rule

It’s a LAW of Maths actually, The Distributive Law.

that says multiplying without a visible operator

It’s not “Multiplying”, it’s Distributing, a(b+c)=(ab+ac)

So yes, 36 is valid here

No it isn’t. To get 36 you have disobeyed The Distributive Law, thus it is a wrong answer

It’s mostly because

people like you try to gaslight others that there’s no such thing as The Distributive Law

Are you under the impression that atomizing your opponents statements and making a comment about each part individually without addressing the actual point (how those facts fit together) is a good debate tactic? Because it seems like all you’ve done is confuse yourself about what I was saying and make arguments that don’t address it.

addressing the actual point (how those facts fit together)

I did address the actual point - see Maths textbooks

all you’ve done is confuse yourself

I’m not confused at all. I’m the one who knows the difference between Distribution and Multiplication.

what I was saying

You lied about there being no such thing as “the Distribution step” (Brackets), proven wrong by the textbooks

make arguments that don’t address it.

Textbooks talking about The Distributive Law totally addresses your lie that no such step exists.

Never mind that some of those micro-rebuttals aren’t even correct

You think Maths textbooks aren’t correct?? 😂

I have said why this style of debate is bad in greater detail here: lemmy.world/post/39377635/21030374

But to make a pointless effort to address your actual point, yes distribution exists, no it is not a step in PE(MD)(AS). Again, you have not understood my point because you categorically fail to engage with any argument. I don’t think you even understand what it means to do so. I will not respond further to either thread.

I dunno - Lemmy.World

Lemmy

I have said why this style of debate is bad in greater detail here: lemmy.world/post/39377635/21030374

Which I debunked here

no it is not a step in PE(MD)(AS)

So… you’re saying the “P” step in PEMDAS isn’t a step in PEMDAS?? This is hilarious given you were just talking about contradictions 😂

Again, you have not understood my point

Maybe because saying the “P” step in PEMDAS isn’t a step in PEMDAS makes no sense at all 😂

you categorically fail to engage with any argument.

No, I comprehensively debunked all of your points and deflections. 😂

I don’t think you even understand what it means to do so

says person who keeps avoiding the textbook screenshots and worked examples proving them wrong

I will not respond further to either thread

Yay! Don’t let the door hit you on the way out 😂

I dunno - Lemmy.World

Lemmy

Parentheses means evaluating the things inaide the parentheses you nimrod

Parentheses means evaluating the things inside the parentheses you nimrod

Only if you’re still in Elementary school. How old are you anyway? Here’s a high school Algebra book, you know, after students have been taught The Distributive Law