Donny Daniel 
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RobJLow@cybeardjm All doubtless true: but it doesn't help the reader who doesn't have the opportunity to quiz the author about their creative process. If you have to do that to tell the difference, then as far as the general reader is concerned that battle has already been lost.
Martin Vermeer FCD@RobJLow @cybeardjm True. Why book publishers are in a key position.
Anger Issues@cybeardjm Same with writing computer code. I could talk for hour about it.
Jared White (ResistanceNet โ)@Cazzandro @cybeardjm Yep. You can tell if somebody actually cares and wrote the code they're submitting in just a few minutes simply by asking them about it.
A@cybeardjm AI is just a golgothan then? (Dogma film reference- a being not born but shat into existence)
LR@cybeardjm "ok stop talking. i'm sufficiently convinced. I SAID STOP!"
Frank Hightower ๐@cybeardjm yep, this is the true difference between "AI assisted" (writing it on your phone in prepandemic times, accepting the autocomplete's suggestions every now and then) and "AI generated"
cube@cybeardjm same thing with llm-generated source code. Nobody knows the technical details, because nobody came up with the solution.
Abram Kedge๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐จ๐ฆ@qbe @cybeardjm which is going to lead to some very embarrassing outages when nobody knows enough about the underlying system to fix a showstopper bug.
Lives are at stake.
Shalien@cybeardjm This can be applied t ocode writing too
Richard W. Woodley ELBOWS UP ๐จ๐ฆ๐น๐ดโโ๏ธ๐ท ๐บ๏ธI would not be surprised f people submit AI slop that they have not even read completely.
@the5thColumnist It happens all the time in courts... Lawyers will learn the hard way (it's already started...)
I imagine the courses thing started with lawyers submitting papers prepared by clerks or paralegals that they have not read themselves but no doubt billed for at their hourly rate.
BeeCycling@the5thColumnist @cybeardjm Given that some have been caught out by having prompts and stuff left in the text, this is definitely already happening.
mirabilos@cybeardjm we need to do this for software contributions as well. If the authorโs eyes light up when he infodumps about why he chose this way to implement itโฆ
Neale Grant@mirabilos @cybeardjm For me, yes and no: I might be invested some but my eyes will never light up about a cute solution to a programming problem the way they will to literally any fiction I've sweated out, however flawed.
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ฑ๏ธThis really captures my feeling about AI use that AI use itself is fine, it's when there is no passion or skill that is the problem.
When someone thinks a single prompt is good enough.
masukomi@cybeardjm so true. There is SO much more to each of my characters than ever makes it to the page.
F4GRX Sรยฉbastien@cybeardjm if you vomit slop into existence, you dont get the right to be called an author. Or a composer. Or an illustrator. Nothing.
@cybeardjm Hah, so true. I may forget a few details here and there about books of mine I wrote over a decade and a half ago now, but I could still talk your ear off about the characters and plots and why I did things a certain way, and which books came easy and which ones were hard, where the ideas came from, what I might have done differently with a plot if writing it today.
Sassinake!I use the term 'extruded' like so many industrial products are - especially plastic products.
I also stopped using ai, but use machine-gen to reflect that industrial, non-human aspect of it, like that cheap press-wood furniture that falls apart the moment you put it into a moving truck.
Mota@cybeardjm ai is all about outcomes, not creative processes
Chris@cybeardjm So AI is all brain, but no heart. Gotcha.