db0Dec 9

Upwards mobility

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/59233288

Show threadLembot_0006Dec 9
Ok, now fire him.
Show threadMurrayLDec 9
The fact they had to do this to earn a promotion is an institutional problem. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
Show threaddukemirageDec 9
the player can always choose not to play, though
Show threadmanicluckyDec 9
It’s a big company. Someone’s going to play.
Show threaduncouple9831Dec 9
Yes, everyone should be evil at all times because otherwise someone else might out-evil you.
Show threadmanicluckyDec 9
No. That putting the onus of change on individuals is a losing proposition. The incentives have to change or no number of good people will fix it. I hear the French have had very effective solutions in the past.
Show threaduncouple9831Dec 9
That’s just repeating the same thing: you think life being shitty is a reason to be evil, and someone not you has to make life less shitty before being evil is no longer acceptable. I disagree.
Show threadmanicluckyDec 9

You seem to believe that I think it a justification for evil. I do not, people should not do such things and they are shitty people for doing them.

I’m saying that the idea of some good people doing the right thing fixing the problem is naive and doomed to failure and a real solution to the problem has to be bigger than the lazy “just no one be evil” proposition you seem into to champion.

Show threaduncouple9831Dec 9
Where on earth am I championing that as a solution?
Show threadmaniclucky
My mistake. I believed you to be proposing a solution to the evil proposed. Not idly judging people with no meaningful contribution toward making things better.
Dec 9 at 3:03pmWeb
Show threaduncouple9831Dec 9

Also not whats happening but that’s fine

I do find it funny, though, that you think judgement is not a meaningful contribution as if that’s not how the vast majority of change happens.

Show threadmanicluckyDec 9

I’m curious how you’d characterize yourself then

It’s not a meaningful contribution. Judging someone in person, sure. Judging someone when you have a platform people pay attention to, yeah. Random comment on Lemmy? No one gives a shit. I fully recognize my own pointlessness in all this, especially this far down in the comments.

Show threaduncouple9831Dec 9
I said you shouldn’t be evil regardless of whether someone else is evil. It’s not an excuse. That’s not judgement, nor is it a solution, it’s me saying you have a choice and there is a clear right answer. Would you rather be Steve Bannon or not Steve Bannon?