@spaceraser @jlw_the_jobber I've only ever used base FreeBSD and I've encountered some absolutely horrific, destructive errors over the years, and certainly desktop use is a challenge, even if it's as good as it's ever been. (There are still a wheelbarrow of issues I could bring up.) Honestly I used to use NetBSD as my desktop in the 90s and I had less pain.

Nowadays, maybe try OpenBSD? It won't get you ZFS and that's a showstopper for me, of course.

What's at the core of your wanting to really try FreeBSD? Maybe there are other ways to scratch the itch.

For me, the perfect OS was Debian before the systemd cult dominated the project. My most common desktop in the house today is Debian on ZFS with sysvinit. The six of us here use it as our primary workstations. We do have two FreeBSD desktops used regularly for various purposes, and it's getting better, but the regular bleeding over it is a challenge.

In the end, use something that gives you pleasure. Life's too short.

@spaceraser @jlw_the_jobber @mason

Having run Linux 25 years ago, I have a much higher tolerance for incomplete hardware support and other glitches. 😂

@rl_dane @spaceraser @jlw_the_jobber @mason

The first laptop I used Linux on, I had to install a custom kernel to get the keyboard, battery level reporting, and touchscreen working.

Installing an OS without a working keyboard was certainly difficult… since that device had only one USB port so I couldn't both have a live USB and an external keyboard plugged in. Except with my cheap USB hub which only had 2.0 speeds, meaning the install was incredibly slow.

@kabel42 @amin @spaceraser @jlw_the_jobber @mason

Yeeesh.

I remember when I got my work machine in late 2022 (almost wrote that as 2002, yikes), Linux was unstable and did a lot of pauses/hangs for the first six months.

I still don't dare game on that machine.

@rl_dane @kabel42 @spaceraser @jlw_the_jobber @mason

The LG one with 12th-gen intel?

You had a lot more problems with that than my 12th-gen intel machine, it's interesting.

@amin @kabel42 @spaceraser @jlw_the_jobber @mason

Yeah, that one.

I think I tried running the latest KSP on that no more than a couple years ago, and it just crashed badly.

@spaceraser @kabel42 @rl_dane @mason @jlw_the_jobber

aka the "R.L. Dane Kerbal Space Program Compatibility Score", or "RLDKSPC Score" for short.

@amin @spaceraser @kabel42 @mason @jlw_the_jobber

Y'all are forgetting:

• Do my bash and ksh scripts work?
• Can I get on the fediverse?
• Are there good terminal web browsers for it?

@mirabilos @amin @spaceraser @kabel42 @mason @jlw_the_jobber

Actually, not sure if you care, but mksh coredumped after I upgraded to FreeBSD 15. (I'm back on 14 now, so I'm afraid I won't be able to troubleshoot). Just thought you might like to know.

It was installed from pkg