European News 🇪🇺Dec 6
Elon Musk and his Russian friends call for the abolishment of the EU
Show threadReid Dec 6
@eunews if you try saying the US should be abolished so each state would be autonomous he'd call you an anti-american radical leftist
Show threadAndreas K

@reiddragon
Actually I don't think so. That's literally what the r right wing libertarians more or less want, a completely castrated federal government. What is exactly what project 2025 is about.
What DOGE was about.

Because again dealing with the individual states, especially if they have to compete against each other, it's way easier.
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Dec 6 at 7:09pmFedilab
Show threadReid Dec 6
@yacc143 @eunews only while Democrats are in power so Republican-ran states can do their bullshit, but now that Republicans are in charge of the federal government, they're violating the authority of states all the time, sending ICE and the national guard all over the place to seize control of places ran by democrats that aren't cooperating doing the fascism
Show threadmausmaloneDec 6
@reiddragon @eunews @yacc143 seconding this - nobody in the US (aside from Libertariens maybe) wants a small government. When the GOP says they want to reduce the size of government, they mean specifically austerity and the ending of social welfare programs. But they're very happy to have a very large police state to enact their own right-wing agenda.
Show threadAndreas KDec 6

@reiddragon
If memory serves, at least for some libertarians the end game are city states governed by corporations. With that pesky democracy thing gone for good, replaced by the rule of money, or as they like to put it, genius.

Ignoring that being rich is in our system seldom correlated with even being clever.
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Show threadReid Dec 6
@yacc143 @eunews it's not libertarians that dominate the american right wing, it's technofascists (like Elon Musk, Sam Altman, and most other Silicon Valley types) and theofascists (like The Heritage Foundation). Genuine right wing libertarians are a fringe minority within yhe american right wing
Show threadAndreas KDec 6

@reiddragon
It's a mix of them.

Call it an unholy coalition. That can agree on a small intersection set, and sometimes that can lead to odd meetings when an anti-Semite supporter meets a Jewish supporter and they start to discuss if Jews should be exterminated.

But yes the current breed of (US) fascists carry a number of libertarian ideas with them, even if their whole program was such might be incompatible.

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Show threadAndreas KDec 6

@reiddragon
Let me be more precise, the libertarians would probably prefer to do away with the whole federal government at least in practical means.

The Trump regime is delivering the dismantling of the administrative state while at the same time even building up the repressive state power (his whole personal hooligans, well funded ICE).
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