Andrew KelleyIn this modern era of acquisitions, weak antitrust regulations, and platform capitalism leading to extreme concentrations of wealth, non-profits remain a bastion defending what remains of the commons.
Dan 🌻@andrewrk Love the whole vibe and migration off github, but calling people monkeys and losers is disappointing
@danvolchek I care about how what I say makes people feel, so, even though I personally believe taking shots at Microsoft employees is fair game, and that they can take it, I do regret causing people to feel upset and/or disappointed with that word choice.
However, since it's not serious enough to warrant some kind of apology/retraction, and it's more honest to let people read the article as it was intended, I'll just live with the discomfort of knowing people don't like it.
Patrick VeverkaI was looking hard at Zig for future projects but when the project lead callously refers to me and my fellow hubbers as “losers” and “monkeys” I can easily skip his project.
If he shows that lack of compassion towards anonymous people, I can’t imagine how he would treat people whose PRs he doesn’t like.
And saying “I believe taking shots at MSFT employees is fair game” out of one side of his mouth while also saying that he “regrets causing people to feel upset” is duplicitous at best.
Andrew absolutely should apologize to the other human beings he denigrated - otherwise I would strongly encourage anyone thinking of using or contributing to Zig to examine the type of culture he is promoting.
From @andrewrk
https://mastodon.social/users/andrewrk/statuses/115620138939386546
@veverkap I do feel bad for hurting your feelings but I also strongly believe that you should not be proud of working for Microsoft, and particularly on GitHub for the last 5 years. I truly am sorry but you need to be called out.
Are you really willing to take responsibility for safe_sleep.sh?
Do you really have no other options in your career besides MS?
Knut 🏳️🌈 🇳🇴🧸@andrewrk @veverkap Bro, you're a fucking DICK! I know TONS of great people at Microsoft even though I hate Microsoft. You're systematically trying to blame their employees for things they probably didn't do. People are not their jobs. Way to wave your hands around and scream "I'm a douche" Now put on your douche hat and stand in the corner.
LockeDann"People are not their jobs" is such a tiring thing to hear from the most highly paid workers in the world
Siguza@LockeDann @praetor the narrative of individual responsibility is at least as tiring though. The linked post is peak deflection. It doesn't call for regulation or some other kind of collective action. It doesn't even call for shaming executives for giving sociopathic orders. It calls for the biggest sacrifices to be made from those with the least amount of leverage. Anything but structural change. Classy.
@siguza @LockeDann Exactly! It's not the frontline devs fault for what these companies do. And in this current market, it's also inescapable. Every company currently, unless they are small guys, are doing the EXACT same shit!. So that says it's not the developer. It's not the grunt at Microsoft. It's a systemic leadership problem with value put above ethics. Microsoft is doing it, Meta is doing it, Google is doing it, even Apple is doing it. Because they can, and the market encourages it.