Stefan_S_from_HApple design chief Alan Dye departs for Meta
resipsaloquiturGood riddance. Now stop hiding buttons.
cannedtunaNow that he’s gone can they roll back to Material? Please?
Whatever it was before, go back.
Read their design guide when I was learning proper UI/UX design and there was a lot of detail on how designing it to be simple and intuiting how users used the interface. Not putting options behind a ton of sub menus, making buttons a certain size, what feedback is expected, how best to make notifications readable, etc. It’s like they threw out everything and said fuck it.
Some options hidden under submenus are just almost never used
Maybe you select some text on iOS and clearly your first instinct is going to be to do something with Apple Intelligence. What are the chances you would want to look the text up? Like zero so that’s an extra tap
(Uhg)
PS: retesting this now, maybe it got better with 26.1
My “favorite” thing in iOS is when you’re composing an email and want to insert a photo. You press and hold to get a context menu, then you tap the right arrow on the context menu a few times until you get “insert photo” (because apparently inserting a photo in an email is the last thing you’d ever want to do). Easy enough (lol) except that the right arrow changes position every time you tap it because the width of the context menu changes based on the width of the text options, so you’re likely to tap outside the menu and dismiss it accidentally. For bonus points, I get to watch my 90-year-old mother with long fingernails try to do this.
I Cast FistHe went to Meta, now you can expect every button on Instagra/Facebook other than “see ad” to be hidden
SkullgridBastard ruining technology through one company moves to ruin technology through another company.
RIP Bozo, you won’t be missed
Chloé 🥕apple was known for making excellent UX, that’s the main reason their products are successful. It Just Works™. (well, that and status symbol)
the problems started before version 26, but i don’t think there’s been an apple software release that botched in a while
caseyweedermanI also don’t think Apple was ever good.
Interesting to look at the votes on this thread. Especially on Lemmy.
I dont have a meaningful takeaway.
I have a book on UX that was probably printed around 2010. Going through it apples new liquid glass design style basically violates every single one of the books principles.
The first and foremost being that it’s almost impossible for developers to emulate. It’s almost like they want there to be this dark contrast between the apple made operating system and the developer made apps, which is an insane thing for them to go for but it does appear to be what they’re actually trying to achieve.
Yeah the Human Interface Guidelines were the precursor to design systems, and for a little while, design/ux really was front and center and that influence and patterns that worked spread through software projects and products. Nowadays sadly UX always takes a back seat to capitalizing on attention, and capitalism in general.
Alaknárapple was known for making excellent UX,
It honestly baffles me how people can say this with a straight face. Iphone’s UX is abysmal.
You open something, and to go back from it you… Look around the screen for clues! Sometimes, you have to swipe down. Sometimes swipe left. Sometimes tap the background. Sometimes tap the top-left corner. Other times, the top-left corner. Unless it’s not just the top-left, it’s the “toppest-leftest”, a small little indicator on the very edge of the screen.
Whereas on Android you go back by tapping the “back” button, or swiping left/right from the edge of the screen (making the gesture ambidextrous). The only exception to this rule is when you’re using an app that was lazily ported from iOS…
AkasazhUsing one of the imacs circa 2000 (the ones with the colourful transparent plastic cases that housed both monitor and comupter) was easily the worst experience I’ve ever had on a computer. One of the worst things was the mouse. Macs always had shitty mice around then, these ugly one button things. Well, with the imac they managed to make it even worse by trying to address just the “ugly” part. And sure, it looked better, but you had to look at it every single time you took your hand off it because it was perfectly round, so you couldn’t tell the orientation just from feel.
And personally, I just hate the “simplicity over everything” approach to UX. It’s like training wheels on a bike. Sure, it’s harder to fall (though these imacs were unstable af and did fall often), but they also prevent you from taking tight turns. “Good for newbies” is not “good in general”.
He’s going to do a lot less damage at Meta. Other than the quest I don’t think they actually make any hardware. What’s he going to do?
thanks for making me realise that my post is interpreted as hating whoever the fuck this guy is, and not the shitty companies he’s working for. for your convenience :
Bastard ruining technology through one company moves to ruin technology through another company.
RIP Bozo, you won’t be missed
EDIT : People seem to be interpreting this as me hating on that guy. I’m hating on apple and facebook. Fuck them both, all this shithead has done is gone from one company fucking up technology (apple) and gone to another company fucking up technology (facebook)
Lol good luck getting boomers to look at grey text on light grey backgrounds
bleistift2I was curious about the quote, but it got jpegged away :(
It’s a Steve Jobs quote:
“Design is not just what it looks like and feels like. Design is how it works.”
ohhh, so Microsoft is bad at design, I was trying to pinpoint exactly what was so fucked up with their shit
because seriously how the fuck does nothing Microsoft just work anymore
even notepad was enshittified, I just learned there’s fucking copilot in notepad. I’m trying to hold out on Win10 at work, but they’re also making OneDrive trigger BSODs a few times a day now…
TBF Microsoft also don’t know how to make things look and feel right. For ages, their primary UI design tools were a toolbar crammed with buttons end to end, a vertical list crammed with items, and a table crammed with items row by row — culminating in Windows 8’s tiles. MS didn’t understand that people need spatial organization, spacing and margins, and only recently started separating toolbar buttons by function in their apps.
Damn. Truly a visionary I must say. Nobody ever thought to think of a design in terms of how something works before
No but seriously though, I don’t really get this quote. Isn’t that… obvious?
For Apple? No, it isn’t. Which is why we got the incredible air phone or whatever that shit was.
They make quality stuff, but it’s always been about vanity. Drives me nuts how much some people are religious about their shit.
pelespiritjpegged away
It wasn’t jpegged away, that’s the awesome joke.
SharkAttak...and then he Dyed.
Gruber reallly just loved him
Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced that Dye will lead a new creative studio within the company’s AR/VR division Reality Labs.
Sweet, now he can actually achieve his fantasy of becoming a glazier in VR.
Xylight“Design is not just how it looks. Design is how it.” -Alan
Words to live by.
Never heard of the guy and both apple and meta can suck my infected boils.
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