iodé 🇬🇧Nov 28
The next time someone says "Privacy doesn't matter to me, I've got nothing to hide", show them this video.
Show threadPlumeros ☮️Nov 28

@iode

GrapheneOS decided to leave France because they would have to implement a backdoor for French authorities.
What about backdoors in #IodeOS as Iodé is a French company?
https://goingdark.social/@watchfulcitizen/115605398411708768

Watchful Citizen (@[email protected])

@[email protected] is being threatened by French authorities for refusing to add backdoors and they're dealing with coordinated attacks in French media right now. They're pulling out of France entirely, moving all their servers, and fighting off a wave of bullshit one-sided reporting that makes them look like they're helping criminals. They need us to fight back. Support them however you can, whether that's a dollar, sharing their story, pushing back on the garbage news coverage when you see it, or just telling someone you know about what's happening. All of it matters because they're drowning in attacks from governments and media and bad actors who want them gone. This is the only Android OS that actually makes me feel like privacy isn't just marketing. They fight for us now they need us to fight for them. The EU is pushing Chat Control and creating an environment where governments feel empowered to threaten developers into compliance, and if we stay quiet we're letting it happen. Show up for them in whatever way you're able to. #grapheneos #Privacy #NoBackdoors #encryption #security #chatControl

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Show threadUddelhexeNov 29

@plumeros @iode

I am interested in that issue too.
I'm planing to get an IodeOS phone and i highly oppose the idea of "scan-on-device" / cliwnt scanning backdoors in Software.

Not only having a single App with such a backdoor in, but the base OS having one, is even worse...i didn't know this was law in france already.

Even if i am not in danger to be targeted in an legal investigation, does such a backdoor not pose a great risk to be hacked by criminals via that way too?

Show threadGrapheneOSNov 29
@Uddelhexe @plumeros You should readhttps://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134-devices-lacking-standard-privacysecurity-patches-and-protections-arent-private which also applies to iodéOS. There's linked content from Divested Computing, Mike Kuketz and Eylenburg there too which each directly cover iodéOS. /e/ and iodéOS both have extraordinarily poor privacy and security. They make it much easier for states to get into devices remotely or extract data with physical access compared to iPhones.
Show threadCoralie RenéeDec 2

@GrapheneOS @Uddelhexe @plumeros

Are iphones secure in that sense?

I didn't think they were...

Show threadGrapheneOSDec 2
@globcoco @Uddelhexe @plumeros iPhones are far more secure than anything running LineageOS, iodéOS or /e/. An iPhone 17 provides much stronger protections than past generations due to hardware memory tagging which was only previously deployed in production for a lot of code by GrapheneOS (more than iOS). iPhones can be configured to have a higher level of security than they do by default via lockdown mode and other features. End result is definitely far better than any non-GrapheneOS option.
Show threadGrapheneOSDec 2
@globcoco @Uddelhexe @plumeros Pixels and iPhones are the only devices with high quality secure elements providing working disk encryption with a random 6 digit PIN or other typical lock method rather than 6 -8 random diceware words. This matters a lot to many people even if they don't realize it. Other Android devices either omit a secure element providing this or have a much lower quality implementation which gets bypassed by commercial exploit tools in practice. That's just one example.
Show threadCoralie RenéeDec 2

@GrapheneOS @Uddelhexe @plumeros

Got it...

Looks like there are some nuances as well

https://us.norton.com/blog/mobile/android-vs-ios-which-is-more-secure

Android vs iPhone security: which is safer?

Discover the differences in Android vs iPhone security. Learn which devices and operating systems are safest and most secure before you buy.

Show threadGrapheneOSDec 2
@globcoco @Uddelhexe @plumeros This is low quality information from a content mill, not a quality analysis of the topic.
Show threadCoralie Renée

@GrapheneOS @Uddelhexe @plumeros

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