Bye bye Windows! 🐧

#linux #windows

@itsfoss
for last tuxedo laptop, i did not nuke the hard disks. it didn't have windows at the first place.

but previous two, i wiped hardisks byte by byte.

@zetabeta What's your experience with Tuxedo? I'm interested in their Infinity Book 14" but I can't find any tests in the internet which are talking about the fans in detail. For example: Can I work a whole day programming without hearing any noises (multiple IDEs, compiling, running containers and VMs)?
The notebook of my client is driving me crazy. The ans are running 100% the whole day. Even during boot..

@mbeddedDev
i bought only one laptop, TUXEDO InfinityFlex 14 - Gen1. it seems to be unavailbale at the moment.

basically, my opinion is limited.

i don't think battery lasts whole day, 20V battery banks may help for that. generally speaking laptop seems to be silent, but may not apply for other laptop models, especially if they are more powerful.

i have this feeling that tuxedo is little bit pricey.

@zetabeta Thank you for your insights :)

@zetabeta @itsfoss If it has Windows on it you should really take out the "hard drive" and just replace it with a new one.

Failing that though, you can maybe burn it off with a thousand cycles of dd if=/dev/random

The taint will always be there though--down under the bits. No exorcism is complete. It's best to just never be possessed to begin with.

@crazyeddie @zetabeta @itsfoss Derrick's boot and nuke (DBAN) is good stuff for ensuring data is permanently wiped.
@itsfoss It still means you paid Microsoft for the included Windows license and it sucks. Blank or linux-preinstalled new hardware is still to rare unfortunately 🙁
I know Tuxedo on the top of my mind, with small independent shops here and there maybe, but that's it. Even LDLC (a french seller) does not offer Linux on configurable new machines and has barely any blank/Linux machines in catalogue.

@carronol @itsfoss I got my laptop from pcspecialist mainly because they let you buy it without an operating system

I considered tuxedo but was worried about UK customs charges

Turns out I shouldn't have worried, a friend of mine bought a tux with no problems

@itsfoss

well, not quite a 'new' laptop. Has to have a few years so the kernel drivers exists. But once that's done, linux more than doubles the life-span of a computers.

@Sassinake Yep, Windows just makes devices slow eventually...
@itsfoss Had to buy a new work laptop and wanted my boss to save the 80$ on the Windows license as I had no intention of using it. Unfortunately boss insisted on paying that premium...for nothing.
@itsfoss its why i buy my laptops from think penguin https://www.thinkpenguin.com been buying my laptops from there sence 2008.
ThinkPenguin.com | Penguin Laptops, Desktops, and Accessories with Linux & GNU Support

@itsfoss not quite true with laptops as it is with pc.

Some new laptops are struggling with Linux and new graphics cards.

Took me months to discuss software with a developer while trying to make it play nice with Linux for it to buck me off of it all because of a graphics driver and spanking new motherboard.

Linux still has some work to do. Kde plasma isn’t working at par yet to let go of windows.

I really really wanted this to work but we aren’t here yet.

@Smoogy @itsfoss KDE is one of the more janky GUI's you can use. Just use a different one and you'll be on your way. If you still want a 'Windows' like UI, try Cinnamon. For older hardware, XFCE. I'm becoming a fan of XFCE thanks to MX Linux.
@mrgrumpymonkey @itsfoss can’t. Wish I could. Some softwares do not develop for anything but plasma. And each motherboard is also different on how it handles that. So right now one computer is running plasma perfectly fine. The other not so much because of the shitty driver. So it’s stuck with windows for now just so I can get work done.
@Smoogy @itsfoss That is a logical concern. Perhaps you could run the M$ OS through a VM, unless you require full system functionality of a direct host. Anyway, keep trucking through Linux. You'll make it to the other side.
@mrgrumpymonkey @itsfoss yup. Today I started playing with Nobara which magically let one of the softwares work without a hitch. Even got to reset my display to be working on dynamic again. Very chuffed with that. Only problem is getting the other software to work then I’ll be in a much better place with this laptop with linux
@Smoogy @itsfoss Distro hopping is part of finding what you're comfortable with. Nobara was one I tested out, but ended up running into more problems than I could fix. I don't just use my system for gaming, and Nobara had issues with some 'linux only' software, for reasons. It's not a Nobara fault, it's more of a Fedora quirk I am not fond of. If it works great for you, then that's what matters.

@itsfoss Had the pleasure of doing this a couple of days ago on a new (to me) Dell Latitude. Nuked Windows and installed Debian Trixie on first boot.

Linux isn't perfect, but it's gotten better and better over the last 15 years that I've been a user, while Windows (which I use at work) has morphed from an okay-ish OS to a dumpster fire.

@itsfoss literally me when I did not know shit about Linux and installed mint in my first ever laptop
@itsfoss I buy my laptops off of Ebay. If you buy something 2 or 3 years old, it is almost guaranteed to run Linux without hassle. I also skip most of the depreciation. They still run quite fast without the Windows bloat.
@BoloMKXXVIII Yeah, going the pre-owned way for laptops is a good approach.
@itsfoss My framework laptop 13 (ryzen 7640U) DIY edition did not have Losedows preinstalled because it did not come with a SSD!
@Velocifyer @itsfoss I see, another user of culture.
* tips fedora *
@itsfoss might update the firmware before, just in case 😅
@sirber83 yeah, good idea 😅
@itsfoss LOVE THIS! It's very apropos