Simon BrookeWoah! How is this question relevant to a consultation on #IndefiniteLeaveToRemain? This seems to me very worrying!
It appears on the second page of the #HomeOffice consultation here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/earned-settlement
MarjorieR@simon_brooke It's part of an unedited demographic profiling exercise of the respondents. This is very much the full list of possible demographic indicators.
Strangely it talks about being a survey not a consultation. They are trying to see who in the population, those who can be bothered to complete it, has what views on their nazi proposals presumably so they can discount the views of those affected.
Pseudo-anonymised Info with be shared with 3rd parties who will use AI to analyse it.
What could possibly go wrong?
In the preamble it states:
"This survey is anonymous. Any personal information you provide will be handled in strict accordance with the Data Protection Act 2018 and UK GDPR. Your data, including any personal data, may be shared with a third-party provider or other government department or organisation for the purposes of analysing and summarising responses. Technology such as artificial intelligence may be used to support this analysis. All responses will be aggregated and anonymised in any reporting.
You can only submit one response. As part of this online consultation survey, your IP address will be collected. This, along with other data verification processes, may be used to detect and remove multiple submissions. Your IP address will not be used for any other purpose."
This all seems like overreach. I would choose to 'prefer not to say' everywhere I can.
UkeleleEric@marjolica @simon_brooke their so-called way of stopping people answering more than once by recording IP address, is a complete misunderstanding of IP addresses anyway - people in the same house (or even multi-household situations) can have the same address, and they are not static, either. Managed to upset their statistics - besides knowing I am a British citizen, they don't know a lot about me.
⊥ᵒᵚ Cᵸᵎᶺᵋᶫ∸ᵒᵘ ☑️@UkeleleEric @marjolica @simon_brooke gee. You think tjeu might have thought of that, which ia why it says "your IP address will be collected. This, along with other data"
@marjolica @falken @simon_brooke yes, but they tend, in practice, to stay the same for a short while, as most internet providers have a limited number of addresses, and tend to assign them for a period. If you're leaving your router on like most people do, the lease could be weeks or more. Dunno how that works with VPNs.
@UkeleleEric @falken @simon_brooke I have a fixed IP, though I reboot my router weekly, however before that I had a dynamic IP and it is as you say.
Deciding whether an IP was the same, given it is shared by family members would likely just invalidate genuine responses, unless other demographic factors were also checked.
However malicious actors such as bots could just reboot between responses and/or vary and/or the demographic profile slightly if they were also used.
I think a VPN is not so attractive for bad actors using a VPN IP end point outside the UK might also put up flags and any particular VPN provider only has a limited number of UK end points to switch between.
And when we come down to it Government rarely takes much account of consultation responses anyway - the purpose is largely to create a democratic smokescreen but saying that you have consulted.
@falken @marjolica @simon_brooke yes, but if you answer 'prefer not to say' to all, and so does another person, who's to say whether it's the same person or not.
@UkeleleEric @falken @simon_brooke
Why they don't mark you as a duplicate:
(1) Probably different IP.
(2) Different responses.
Remember they are trying to profile the responses so they can ignore responses from those actually affected and those who are not Reform/Conservative/Blue Labour demographic.
I suppose saying "prefer not to say" to as many demographic questions as possible will mark you out as a "no to National ID" type and so rather inimicable to their mission.