not just citizens...
not just citizens...
@chatcontrol so time for civil unrest/disobedience?
can't wait for all the leaked messages from the Commission and Council showing how terrible these people are...
@Null03 @chatcontrol Well for chatting switch over to Delta Chat, or any other decentralized messaging app. Theres simpelx, tox. etc. But as of now Delta has the most functioning UI.
No phone number, no email, no account. You just open the app and give yourself a username.
@iguana09863 @chatcontrol It has never been in Signal's intentions to provide anonymity, but security and privacy. It's three different concepts.
You cannot track a Signal user with their phone number, but you can know that a phone number is linked to a Signal account.
@chatcontrol 😱 No! This isn't really happening! Where did this sudden change come from?! Why do I feel like with each day the pressure increases, it only seems to get better, when in reality, it's getting worse?!
There was a moment when I was certain that when Denmark withdrew the idea, that was the end of these stupid ideas for this term. It never occurred to me that it was really just a cover to try to push it through in some less obvious way. I didn't think they'd stoop to such tactics.
But I'll say what I always say in such cases: We have to fight! We have to protest! ✊ We can't let this get through! Because if it does, there will be no point in protecting privacy. It scans everything. All of you.
It will destroy all the great communication solutions that I value not only for privacy but also for functionality 💔 It will destroy all of us.
Go to https://fightchatcontrol.eu! Write anything that expresses your disagreement. You don't have to put in the effort; just send the default message; it's always better than nothing.
I hope that this time we will not win the battle but the whole war! 🙏
@EUCommission #ChatControl #FightChatControl #StopChatControl #CSAR #CSAM #EU #EuropeanUnion #Europe #Encryption #Privacy #Security #Cybersecurity #Freedom #Democracy #HumanRights #Surveillance #StopSurveillance
@ppaluchowski64 this is not sudden.
Pressure to control communication has been mounting for many years now. A small summary:
https://www.draketo.de/censor-the-net
@chatcontrol
Remember that we all live in democracies and have free elections. Of course they will not try and push something that the public doesnt want. They also wont use propaganda and false narratives to gaslight us into supporting this. They also wont use the law to bypass us.
We do live in democracies, right? RIGHT???
@chatcontrol The fact that this isn’t compatible with court decisions, existing legislature and common sense clearly isn’t an issue for to the few unelected ones.
Not that long ago the internet and new technology used to be exciting and empowering freedom. Now it’s just a tool to enforce the will of the big brother.
I’m glad I experienced internet free of this, it’s gonna suck to learn to live offline.
@chatcontrol In a discussion yesterday about something happening in the UK, it was pointed out that MPs are more likely to ignore protest emails than protest letters. Because a letter requires someone to open it, log it, scan it and add it to a database.
So let's not email our protests to our governments and MEPs. Let's not even print letters.
We need to deluge them with hand written protests.
@maxim @chatcontrol
1) last minute,
2) behind closed doors,
3) no reports
But "empowered, engaged, and informed people are the heart of our democracy" https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/115536964253893646
Attached: 4 images Democracy is at the heart of Europe. But democracy needs care, especially when 70% of Europeans fear foreign interference in elections. Today we present the European Democracy Shield and the EU Strategy for Civil Society. Together, they'll make our democracies stronger, support independent media, and empower people and civil society to play an active role in shaping Europe’s future. Because empowered, engaged, and informed people are the heart of our democracy 💪 More: link.europa.eu/C7TDFT
@maxim TechRadar has an article on this (https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/this-is-a-political-deception-new-chat-control-convinces-lawmakers-but-not-privacy-experts-yet) and cites the following links:
* https://www.consilium.europa.eu/de/meetings/mpo/2025/11/law-enforcement-wp-lewp-police-%28361206%29/
* https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2025/11/2025-11-06_Council_Presidency_LEWP_CSA-R_Presidency-compromise-texts_14092.pdf
@voidanix Thank you!
As far as I can see, they don't have details on a vote/agreement on the meeting from the 12th. The only thing about that which could be interpreted as this references the COREPER II session from November 5th, but ignores that some states (e.g. Spain & Hungary) still wanted changes to make the proposal more extreme.
The cites you listed are the calendar (showing the meeting happened (knew that)) & the 2nd is the compromise text. Neither gives info on the states' positions.
Again I'm gonna do a PSA for everyone since it's critical for Europe and especially for Germany because that means there will be a dangerous potencial for article 4 (Risikominderung) that WILL definitively not be as harmless as presented by the DP due to it's invasive and flawed AI. It's only a matter of time b4 any fuck ups occur so the only chance we have right now is to RAISE our voices and if possible go on the streets for a massive protest in your country to save privacy.
@belladonnalily How actually is "19. Oktober" shortly _after_ "12. November"?
Regards!
I assume it's either case of maybe confusing a month or there was some political correspondence going on on this day (tbh I don't know anything else since the DP will always have a tendency to speak fluent "backdoors").
Hi again Dreieck,
one possible date that corresponds and which would make sense is the 19. November with the coreper meeting where there will be a political discussion about chatcontrol or about the potencial release of it. And another screenshot is basically for everyone to use in their stories or posts.
It's a sad day for democracy in EU.
Everything in the European Union, nothing outside the European Union, nothing against the European Union.
Il Duce and Stalin both would be applaud this utter obliteration of the very concept of privacy.
@chatcontrol Is there actually a tool to get the postal #addresses of the representatives in a machine-processable form?
It was argued somewhere that writing real letters would make an impact-difference, because the fact that a #letter is physical and needs to be handled (opened, read or just scanned, archived) would leave some more impact than an email which can be physically ignored more easily.