David GerardNov 10

The key weakness in AI agents is that they're a lie. They don't work. They just don't fuckin' work. You can't set a hallucination engine to work doing tasks. It's pants on head stupid. The hype pretends this isn't the case and hypothesises a fabulous future where they work *at all*. This is a lie.

A useful model for "AI agents" is that they're the current excuse meme for AI. They're not a thing that works at all, now or in the fabulous future. But they're *such* good material for hypecrafting. No sausage at all, but *my god* that sizzle.

Show threadgigantosNov 10

@davidgerard I don’t know what you base this on. It most definitely work for some things, at least some of the time.

For example, someone I know needed to do some stuff with an Arduino to make it show a pretty wave pattern using unevenly distributed led lights. This person was a crafter, not a coder. However, by oploading a hand drawn picture of where the leds where placed it generated a web based simulator with sliders to tweak parameters. Then, when he was happy with the result after tuning the sliders, it generated code for the arduino that compiled and ran perfectly. First try.

It might have been an incredible amount of luck, but this non-technical person got his art project to work without needing to learn anything about code.

Show threadJason Petersen (he)Nov 10
@gigantos @davidgerard I know AI boosters aren’t gonna pay attention to things like details or comprehension, but OP said “agents”.
Show threadgigantos

@jason @davidgerard and the coding agents is not included in your definition of agents?

Anyway, I’m already been declared both a drive by and an AI booster. So I’m out. I refuse to deal with bullies on the Fediverse.

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Show threadEejalabNov 10

@gigantos @jason @davidgerard

I fully commiserate with you. Hatred for all things related to LLMs is a bit of a religion in the Fediverse.

And without fail you get derided for pointing out that they have their uses and if they are indeed utterly useless, then the detractors have nothing to worry about because the "problem with LLMs" that they keep hand-wringing about will solve itself eventually.

Show threadJason Petersen (he)Nov 10

@eejalab @gigantos @davidgerard yes, the bubble will crash.

This isn't "bullying". It's existing in a society, get with it.