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YouTube Rolling Out AI Age Verification to New Batch of Users

YouTube expands age verification to more users. Several users are reporting on Reddit seeing new restrictions being applied to their accounts.

YouTube Rolling Out AI Age Verification to New Batch of Users

YouTube expands age verification to more users. Several users are reporting on Reddit seeing new restrictions being applied to their accounts.

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Nov 7 at 6:24pmWeb
Show threadDFX4509BNov 7
One more reason to use an alt front-end, and clear/disable your watch/view history and not log into YT directly anymore, at least assuming Google don’t login-wall all of YT.
Show threadTim_BisleyNov 7
What alt front ends are there? How would you bypass the age check? Back in the day I didn’t have an account and you could get around it using third party sites but those don’t work anymore as far as I know.
Show threadDFX4509BNov 7

Invidious mainly, and that doesn’t use any YT accounts, it’s the equivalent of watching YT logged out.

Also, Grayjay lets you log in through it but that probably doesn’t bypass the age check if you’re KYC’d.

Show threadfloofloofNov 7
Presumably once YouTube finishes rolling out age verification, all these age restricted videos will require logging in to view them and anonymous front end apps will be locked out.
Show threadDFX4509BNov 7
Age-gated vids have been login-walled for a while now, non-age-gated stuff is still viewable logged out, for now.
Show threaddarkkiteNov 7

they could but it would harm a lot of organic growth since they rely on content being easily shared.

i don’t think they will do chrome only as that would be anticompetitive

Show threadnyanNov 8
Not unless they’re complete boneheads (which, admittedly, is not impossible). If they do that, they effectively lose embed-video-in-external-sites functionality, and that might just be enough for unpaid content creators to dump the platform en masse and cause their effective monopoly to crumble. The content creators who are actually making decent money may never leave entirely, but if another viable platform comes into existence, I bet most of them would mirror to it.
Show threadDFX4509BNov 8
Assuming mirroring isn’t borked by that aforementioned DRM.
Show threadaaronhooperNov 11
honestly I didn’t know invidious was still around. last time I tried to use it it was broken
Show threadDFX4509BNov 11
There’s only like, one viable instance though: inv.nadeko.net.
Show threadDarkcoffeeNov 7
Getting GrayJay was the best decision I made. However much the one time license was, I have 0 regrets.
Show threadartyomNov 7

Yeah they still rarely work but I’d rather deal with intermittent inoperability than log into a YT account and use their absolute atrocity of a UI.

Also worth noting that paying for premium does not give you any more control over this waterfall of forcefed garbage.

Show threadcyberwolfieNov 7

I don’t think you bypass the age checks with the alternative front-ends? I’ve been using FreeTube for some time, and whenever there has been an 18+ video, I would not be able to view it as I would not pass the age check. If this is a more general check that is being rolled out, I guess there will be less and less videos that will work through these.

I think I need to start hoarding video tutorial series and self-host them. Would something like TubeArchivist be my best bet for that?

Show threadmysticmartzNov 7
I think we need to hit these companies where it hurts and stop using them until they refuse to comply with governmental age verification
Show threadKairuByteNov 8

Sounds good in theory but there just isn’t anything that can hold up to the same traffic. Don’t get me wrong, I’d migrate away from YouTube in a heartbeat, but there really isn’t much that compares when it comes to the creators, and the music. All of which are “free” and easy to access with an ad blocker.

And I’m including piracy.

Show thread3abasNov 8
Have you seen most YouTube videos? Nothing can hold up to the garbage content being pumped in by scammers and low effort “influencers” and shit like Mr beast or the Pauls or whatever is popular these days. We don’t need YouTube level capacity for good content.
Show threadKairuByteNov 8

But that bad content would flow over to the new platform. Just like bots and bad actors exist here on Lemmy, and wether or not you want them to be here they are.

You can’t build for “the good content” and assume the bad won’t follow. And honestly, once you hit a certain scale it is literally impossible to weed out the bad.

Show thread「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)Nov 8
I just duckduckgo some youtube downlaoder sites, paste the link, then watch using VLC. Not seamless, but whatever, I can read a wiki article while I wait.
Show threadmuusemuuseNov 8
Pinch flat exists.
Show thread9tr6gyp3Nov 7
I don’t understand why people are so afraid to ditch YouTube
Show threadearthwormNov 7

A lot of creators I watch are YouTube exclusive with their content.

If they were on Peertube, I’d delete YouTube in a heartbeat.

But I also understand that a lot of them make their living off ad revenue, so I don’t blame them for staying.

Show thread9tr6gyp3Nov 7
Why commit to them instead of finding alternative creators on a different platform?
Show threadearthwormNov 7
There is no substitute for Hank Green.
Show threadthen_three_moreNov 7
Name one
Show thread9tr6gyp3Nov 7
What are you into?
Show thread🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 Nov 7
Doesn’t matter. Name a single FREE alternative to YouTube with content worth watching.
Show thread9tr6gyp3Nov 7
Depends on the content you’re wanting to watch.
Show thread🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 Nov 7
See, you can’t even just name something. Because it doesn’t exist.
Show thread9tr6gyp3Nov 7
So you’re looking for a service that spoon feeds you non-specific videos?
Show thread🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 Nov 7
Do you have no opinions yourself? I don’t care what’s on it; what alternatives do you think exist?
Show thread9tr6gyp3Nov 7
I can give you the alternative if you tell me what you want to watch?
Show threadTachyonTeleNov 8
Videos.
Show thread9tr6gyp3Jan 20
Plenty of videos on loops, peertube, archive sites, libraries, and public domain sites
Show threadTachyonTeleJan 20
Why are you going all in on a thread from two months ago?
Show thread9tr6gyp3Jan 20
Just logged back in
Show threadathatetNov 8
12 hours later. Whatcha got?
Show thread9tr6gyp3Jan 20
2 months later, the alternative is anything else except YouTube. Maybe even nothing at all. Try doing 2 months without it and see if you can survive.
Show threadBetamacxJan 31
@Kolanaki @9tr6gyp3 Dailymotion?
Show threadtoomanypancakesNov 7
How about mtg gameplay, video game speedruns, beat battles, and vtubers? That's pretty much all I use YouTube for these days, but I'd love to drop it completely.
Show threadfaythofdragonsNov 8
I do cosplay, dollhouses, and dioramas, and peertube is pretty dead on that front.
Show thread9tr6gyp3Jan 20

Cosplay: www.therpf.com/forums/

Dollhouses: www.dollshousespastandpresent.co.uk/Forum

Dioramas : www.scalemodeladdict.com/…/dioramas-terrain.88/

RPF Costume and Prop Maker Community

RPF Costume and Prop Maker Community

RPF Costume and Prop Maker Community
Show threadthen_three_moreNov 8
Photography, Star trek, fountain pens
Show thread9tr6gyp3Jan 20

Photography, check out pixelfed

Star trek, check out www.trekbbs.com

Fountain pens, check out www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/

The Trek BBS

Star Trek forums for Star Trek fans - chat about the series and the movies here.

The Trek BBS
Show threadthen_three_moreJan 20

Forums like the fountain pen one and and the photography one you suggested are a Reddit replacement. However, sometimes you want to watch a video though. So they’re not good YouTube replacements in my opinion.

Pixelfed is great as an Instagram replacement, but again no videos.

Show thread9tr6gyp3Jan 20
I looked through them before posting and the users there were sharing their information through different mediums, including videos.
Show threadthen_three_moreJan 20

I’ve never once seen a video on pixelfed, it’s a photo platform.

The others I’ll take a look

Show threadEinarNov 7

Fine. Name alternatives for what YouTube is mostly used for.

We are talking vlogs on huge amounts of topics, product reviews and unboxings, reaction videos, how-to tutorials, gaming videos (walkthroughs, live streams, and etc.), ASMR and relaxation content, educational and explainer videos for science, history and finance… and so on.

There’s simply no true alternative.

Show thread9tr6gyp3Nov 7
What are you into?
Show threadEinarNov 7

The above.

My circle of family, friends and others will extend the list to music videos, health care (mental health and wellness, and for example), the shorts, movie trailers, even Hallmark movies.

There is no platform other than YouTube that combines all this crazy amount of content.

There’s PeerTube with notoriously difficult onboarding for the average user and limited content, there’s Loops with extremely limited content… I really wish it were different.

Maybe one day existing platforms will rise. Looking at you, VIMEO, Kick, DailyMotion, DTube…

Show thread9tr6gyp3Jan 20
In the meantime, lets utilize other sources of videos like those at our local libraries, public domain hosts, archive websites, and open source federated video sharing platforms
Show threadcriss_crossNov 7
You can also check out nebula. A good chunk of them are there.
Show threadOptionalNov 7
Not “afraid” to “ditch” a monopoly. It’s a monopoly.
Show threadTachyonTeleNov 7
If you want to transfer every video to a different service, be my guest.
Show thread9tr6gyp3Nov 7
I mean, it gives you tools to export your videos out.
Show threadTachyonTeleNov 7
Cool. You should probably get started. There’s a lot of videos.
Show thread9tr6gyp3Nov 7
I don’t have any youtube videos to export. Do you want me to export yours?
Show threadatrielienzNov 7
And everyone else’s. People don’t go elsewhere because the creators they like are on YouTube. Speaking as someone with and Nebula.
Show thread9tr6gyp3Jan 20
Well we can start looking for creators that respect privacy and freedom of their viewers, ig
Show threadatrielienzJan 21
You’re asking them to put their livelihood on the line for your privacy. They’re gonna choose the thing that pays their bills every time.
Show thread9tr6gyp3Jan 21

No, what Im saying is a service that is as centralized and pervasive as youtube should not be the ones who determine if you should be allowed to watch a video or not. They are inserting themselves between you and your content creator and assessing your entire identity. They, a for-profit, data-hoarding, facist financier, corporate advertising conglomerate will have collected the very personal details of your entire individual life, and will amass everything they have on you to declare if you are able to watch a 10 minute video.

THAT is what we should not have. But maybe thats just me.