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Mamdani wins New York City mayor’s race

https://lemmy.world/post/38345041

Mamdani wins New York City mayor’s race - Lemmy.World

Zohran Mamdani has won the race for New York City mayor, according to Decision Desk HQ, ushering in a new era of progressive politics in the city and reigniting the debate over the Democratic Party’s future. Mamdani, a 34-year-old democratic socialist, is poised to become the first millennial and first Muslim to lead New York City, after a campaign that pulled off one of the most stunning political upsets in recent memory. He defeated former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who mounted a long-shot independent bid after losing to Mamdani in the Democratic primary, and Republican Curtis Sliwa in his bid to succeed Mayor Eric Adams.

MagicPterodactyl Nov 5

Hell yeah. Hopefully this will contribute momentum to a larger nationwide socialist movement.

givesomefucks Nov 5

Almost as soon as Mamdani won the primary, the DNC chair did a PBS interview talking about the important part was the platform Mamdani ran on…

And Martin only waited till after the primary, because he legit believes a party shouldn’t be biased. But he ran Minnesota for a decade, and under his watch they went from purple to progressive as fuck.

The only way we lose, is if people pre-emptively give up on the party and don’t vote in the primary. So there’s going to be a lot of noise trying to convince people not to trust the new party

Going to be?

There’s already a shit load of that right here on Lemmy.

givesomefucks Nov 5

We got like 30 months till presidential primaries, and the billionaires are not going to talk about how they lost control of the DNC on the media networks they bought for propaganda…

Ignorance is the natural state, everyone is ignorant of everything until they learn it.

But it’s not gonna be a valid excuse for much longer.

But regardless of people’s opinion of the DNC, Martin is going to keep throwing money back at state parties, which is going to keep translating to wins downballot. And he’s not gonna stop a progressive from getting the presidential nomination.

It’d be nice to also see some midterm primary challenges to incumbent neolibs.

givesomefucks Nov 6

You’ll only have to wait a few months…

But we’re already seeing them drop out, Pelosi and some other guy aren’t seeking re-election.

They know they can’t win a level playing field, and if they try and lose they’ll get less money from corporations in their second career.

They want risk a fair fight, they’ve never had it in them. So a lot are going to Paul Ryan off to the sunset and just let progressives have it, hoping it fails and they can pop back up

MiddleAgesModem Nov 5

A huge chunk of Lemmy thinks it’s good that Trump won because that’s apparently better than “establishment democrats”.

MiddleAgesModem Nov 5

There’s no “new party”. Democrats won in Virginia by being centrist. Not every part of the country is exactly the same.

SailorFuzz Nov 5

But they won. Because the alternative was a literal maga crazy person who doesn’t think prejudice against LGBT people is discriminatory.

Now, you can be unhappy that it wasn’t some mystical ultra progressive (that wasn’t even running in the race)… or you can be happy that at least the needle didn’t shift even further right. Now that’s not to say “Vote Blue NMW”, but it will be easier to field progressives in the future from Spanberger’s position, than from Winsome’s. And maybe next time, the magical lefty messiah Lisan al Gaib will be running and the choice will be between them vs the centrist democrat, instead of a centrist democrat vs a literal smoothbrained maga dummy.

CharlesDarwin Nov 5

Now that’s not to say “Vote Blue NMW”

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

lumpenproletariat Nov 5

Not to say there isn’t, because we’ve seen that doing so is how you get people like Trump and voter apathy.

MiddleAgesModem Nov 5

But they won.

I certainly didn’t dispute that. Both won by running races that best appealed the majority of voters in their electoral areas. People here are somehow mad that we got the governorship of Virginia? The confirmation bias is ridiculous.

Because the alternative was a literal maga crazy person who doesn’t think prejudice against LGBT people is discriminatory.

Yeah, welcome to much of America that isn’t NYC, a major urban metropolis. And Mamdani still had decent opposition from a sex offender. Gonna ignore that? If you try, you could downplay his victory as much as hers but why would you? They’re both wins. Winning shouldn’t divide us.

Now, you can be unhappy that it wasn’t some mystical ultra progressive (that wasn’t even running in the race)… or you can be happy that at least the needle didn’t shift even further right.

I’m happy in either case. All I care about is a pragmatic approach that moves society in the way I most agree with. Allowing Donald Trump to come to power doesn’t qualify.

givesomefucks Nov 5

Not every part of the country is exactly the same.

Almost like not every part of the party is exactly the same?

The “new” part is being nonbiased instead of ridiculously biased.

If you’re confused and something sounds like it doesn’t make sense, ask questions instead of making assumptions

MiddleAgesModem Nov 5

Almost like not every part of the party is exactly the same?

That supports my point, it doesn’t dispute it.

The “new” part is being nonbiased instead of ridiculously biased.

What the fuck does that mean? Non-biased, is that a joke? People, trying to divide the party to help Republicans win, are obviously biased. I on the other hand accept both wins in NYC and Virginia while you accept only NYC.

If you’re confused and something sounds like it doesn’t make sense, ask questions instead of making assumptions

I didn’t express confusion or uncertainty. This is a pathetic argument tactic that intentionally avoids the topic at hand.

Stop trying to divide the party. That’s how you uncompromising ideologues gave us a second Trump presidency.

givesomefucks Nov 5

I think the problem is you don’t understand what the DNC is…

lumpenproletariat Nov 5

You have such a hard-on for Ken, despite the fact that he’s a typical centrist lib who in his own words is happy to continue taking money from “good billionaires”.

I cant wait for the day you realise what he actually is and stop spreading the propaganda.

MiddleAgesModem Nov 5

How about we implement a progressive income tax, no loopholes, instead of fixating on an arbitrary number like fucking dumbasses? How much money CAN on have from which you’d still take money.

Drop the fucking buzzwords. This isn’t a game.

lumpenproletariat Nov 5

Oh hey it’s this troll again. Please you never answered the last time you made this bogus claim - What are these buzzwords you keep imaging?

This has nothing to do with taxation, the issue is money in politics.

MiddleAgesModem Nov 5

Lol, what’s a greater sign of one’s insecurity in their own argument than instantly labeling “troll”. Pathetic.

Please you never answered the last time you made this bogus claim

Is that how language works? One’s own claim requires an answer? I thought answers followed questions.

What are these buzzwords you keep imaging.

“Billionaire”. It’s fucking arbitrary and it removes the focus from where it should be. “Centrist lib”, you sound like a Trumper for fuck’s sake.

This has nothing to do with taxation, the issue is money in politics.

Oh and ONLY billionaires can put money in politics? Someone with a hundred million, you wouldn’t have a problem with that? What is your cutoff? A lot of rich people put money in politics precisely so they can get tax breaks. So no, they’re not unrelated. And every time you allow a Republican to come to power over the “centrist lib”, you do the super rich a massive favor.

Please before bothering me any more on this site, take the time to actually read what has been said you’ve now made this ridiculous completely unrelated statement twice now.

More pathetic posturing to obscure your weak argument. That’s all this is.

dreamkeeper Nov 5

Billionaire is a buzzword now? Lol.

Martin only waited till after the primary, because he legit believes a party shouldn’t be biased. But he ran Minnesota for a decade, and under his watch they went from purple to progressive as fuck.

To be correct. Ken Martin hates DSA and socialists. Most of his time in Minnesota was spent purging DSA members from the party. Minnesota went left in spite of him.

givesomefucks Nov 5

Yo bro…

Look how much he hates progressives:

pbs.org/…/dnc-chair-on-the-path-to-winning-back-v…

www.facebook.com/omarfatehmn/…/320417132678100/

DNC chair on the path to winning back voters and lessons Democrats can learn from Mamdani

Democratic Party officials are looking at the Big Beautiful Bill as a political gift and hoping voters view cuts to social spending negatively. But the party faces challenges ahead of the midterms, including a Republican trifecta and a base questioning if party leadership is doing enough to challenge President Trump. Amna Nawaz discussed where the party goes next with DNC Chair Ken Martin.

PBS News

A single endorsement doesn’t change a decade of fighting progressive politics.

givesomefucks Nov 7

doesn’t change a decade of fighting progressive politics

It doesn’t make Aslam not a representation of Jesus Christ either, since at this point we’re talking make believe…

Where’s any kind of source about “a decade fighting progressive policies”?

It apparently happened for a fucking decade, so obviously you can quickly gather some big and obvious examples.

A-fuckin-men! I hope the dnc also gets their head out of their ass and starts embracing the left side.

MiddleAgesModem Nov 5

NYC and Virginia are proof that different polities require different approaches.

“Proof”

MiddleAgesModem Nov 5

You know how can I tell when I’m right? When this piss poor attempt at a response is all you can offer.

One example of a thing is not “proof” of anything.

MiddleAgesModem Nov 5

OK then, so Mamdani’s win was ALSO meaningless, right? It doesn’t mean anything about a progressive push in the party?

You see how your arguments works both ways? NYC and the state of Virginia are different places. Why are you so upset that Dems won in VA? They wouldn’t have won their running Mamdani’s campaign because the entirety is the not the municipality of NYC.

OK then, so Mamdani’s win was ALSO meaningless, right?

No.

It doesn’t mean anything about a progressive push in the party?

Didn’t say that either. It’s not proof that the party is

You see how your arguments works both ways?

No. My “arguments” was that that one or two examples dont constitute a “proof” about any grander strategy.

. Why are you so upset that Dems won in VA?

Oh I see we’re just doing full blown straw men now.

In that case, it’s the same reason you are so upset about some shit that you didn’t say anything about.

They wouldn’t have won there running Mamdani’s campaign

That’s true. Virginians don’t care about free buses in New York. They’d probably have to make the campaign address Virginia.

because the entirety Virginia is the not the municipality of NYC.

Hard truths here in this post.

Fact is, the most progressive candidate won by 15 points. Not sure how this proves anything about what would have happened had a more progressive candidate had run.

lumpenproletariat Nov 5

The DNC is owned by billionaires, the sort the DNC chair Ken supports and defends their right to play economic kingmaker.

There is zero chance the DNC gets their head out.

MiddleAgesModem Nov 5

He’s mayor on NYC, not the head of the DNC.

You fucking idiots are why we have Trump AGAIN.

lumpenproletariat Nov 5

Deranged.

MiddleAgesModem Nov 5

Absolutely pathetic response. You can’t do better than that?

Eugene V. Debs' Ghost Nov 5

So we somehow made Trump win but also got a Democrat elected? Sound logic.

MiddleAgesModem Nov 5

Yeah, it’s almost like there were separate elections or something.

What a stupid fucking point. Yeah, both are true. 10 million “progressives” handed Trump the presidency in 2024. Now, a much more concentrated group of voters elected a Democrat as mayor pf NYC. There’s no “somehow” mystery about it.

10 million “progressives”

Didn’t give anything to trump. You’re either assuming Harris was entitled to something she never received, or do you actually think Dementia Don convinced a lot of voters to cross the spectrum?

MiddleAgesModem Nov 6

Didn’t give anything to trump.

They gave Trump the country. Pathetic fucking phonies who don’t even REMOTELY give a fuck about the issues they claim to care so deeply about.

You’re either assuming Harris was entitled to something she never received, or do you actually think Dementia Don convinced a lot of voters to cross the spectrum?

Dementia Don had the same number of voters in 2020. Somehow, those 10 million fucking idiots were able to vote for Biden but Harris “didn’t deserve it”? Maybe you can explain why a convicted felon child rapist deserved it instead. Because if you refused to for for her, you helped him come to power. You’re a Trump supporter. Hope you’re fucking proud,.

They didn’t give anything. Complete absence of things. Null. Zero. It’s especially deranged to think they possessed an entire country to give. It’s literally impossible to give what you don’t have, and claiming otherwise is serious mental gymnastics.

BTW I didn’t vote for him and my state has sent its electoral votes to Dems from current day contiguously back longer than any other state. So assuming who I support is another ignorant statement.

there kinda already is kicked off by bernie in 2015, The DSA (Democratic Socialists America) has made AOC and Mamdani big and also a number of less prominent figures

en.wikipedia.org/…/Democratic_Socialists_of_Ameri…

Democratic Socialists of America - Wikipedia

Oxysis/Oxy Nov 5

Fuck yes! That’s really good news and that it well needed right now!

BigMacHole Nov 5

VOTER FRAUD! There’s NO WAY someone who Campaigned on Helping the Middle Class could BEAT a Sex Offender with Billionaire Sugar Daddies! There’s NO WAY!

End of the world in 30 days!

criss_cross Nov 5

How could a guy that was forced to resign as governor fail to get elected as mayor?!?!

Your satire is top notch ;)

Lost_My_Mind Nov 5

Plot twist, he’s legitimately angry, and wearing a red hat.

…no, I’m just joking. Don’t flame him.

NYT editorial staff in shambles.

Fuck them in particular

MiddleAgesModem Nov 5

I bet Trump is already saying that

Working class, not middle class.

gandalf_der_12te Nov 5

median class

Credibly_Human Nov 5

This is very important. Too many people think policies that help the middle class help them, and its like, bitch, you do not own a house. You are less than 3 months worth of paychecks away from being on the street. You are not middle class.

Most people aren’t middle class anymore.

When politicians say middle class, its almost always so they can appeal to rich people while phrasing it as applying to you.

You are working class.

Just about everyone here is working class.

Working class is the median class.

darthelmet Nov 5

This is nice. I was really worried there would be some last minute funny business with Cuomo, but things worked out for once!

bus_factor Nov 5

There were last minute funny ads at least, but I don’t think they did Cuomo any favors.

SwingingTheLamp Nov 5

I started the day with the news that Dick Cheney is dead. Now I’m ending it with news that Zohran Mamdani is mayor. It’s been the best day in a long, long time.

pinheadednightmare Nov 5

I can only get so erect.

Ask your doctor if Cialis is right for you.

MiddleAgesModem Nov 5

why the fuck are they in bath tubs

Especially their own separate tubs