flamingos-cant (hopepunk arc)Oct 31

Well, where?

https://feddit.uk/post/38812721

Show threadgandalf_der_12te
saw someone unironically use vim the other day. i thought people actually using vim was a joke.
Nov 1 at 7:09amWeb
Show threadmacnielNov 1
Why wouldn’t one use vim? It’s a great editor that works under any circumstance.
Show threadcepelinasNov 1
Unless you want to exit it xD
Show threadmostlikelyapersonNov 1
Esc :q for closing if you didn’t modify anything, :!q for closing and discarding any changes you made and:wq for closing and writing the changes to the file.
Show threadcepelinasNov 1
I was joking I know how to exit because of sudoedit it just feels like it should be on the main screen like nano or atleast ctrl+c should exit.
Show threadewenakNov 1
If you start vim without opening a file it’s written on the screen in the beginning. It disappears as soon as you start writing something though.
Show threadcepelinasNov 1
I didn’t notice thanks!
Show threadmacnielNov 1
Also, when you want to Quit by hitting CTRL+C, VIM will tell you to use !q instead.
Show threadcepelinasNov 1
I tried it just didn’t say anything for me, maybe it was an old version?
Show threadThis2ShallPassNov 1
Perhaps you have vim-tiny installed by default on your distro rather than just vim?
Show threadexprNov 1

Ctrl-C absolutely should not exit. There’s plenty of times you want it in vim to interrupt something in the editor.

As others have said, it’s on the screen if you open vim without a file. Otherwise, it’s a tool for people that bother to learn how to use it. As someone who has been using daily for the last 10 years, I would find it incredibly obnoxious to have a bunch of useless screen clutter telling me basic things that are easily learned.

Show threadcepelinasNov 1
Sorry, I forgot that vim has extensions.
Show threadexprNov 1

Vim has an entire dedicated scripting language built right into the editor and accessible while editing.

Even without plugins, sometimes certain things can be too slow and you want to stop them.

Show threadnot_IONov 2
nowadays, if you ctrl+c, vim tells you how to exit
Show threadcepelinasNov 2
If you had read the other rssponse about basically the same thing you would know that the last time when I accidentally went into vim it didn’t show it for me and infact it probably was vim-tiny. I am sorry for sounding condesending.
Show threadDevjavuNov 1
The likes are the vim users with humor, the dislikes the ones without.
Show threadgandalf_der_12teNov 1
idk it just seems complicated, with all the keybindings and i think it even has scripting inside the text editor … i never bothered to learn it.
Show threadexprNov 2
It’s a tool with a medium-high skill floor and incredibly high skill ceiling. It rewards investment and is something that is able to accommodate one’s growth in skills rather than holding them back with limitations like typical editors do. Its built-in scripting is a big part of that and is something that really sets it apart from editors like vscode. And it’s much, much faster and lighter weight/less memory-intensive than other editors.
Show threadmartinbNov 1

It’s my go to editor wherever possible.

Learn the keybindings, play a few vim games and install an opinionated suite of plugins like lazyvim.

Before you know it, you too will curse every other editor in existence which doesn’t at least offer vim keybindings 😄

Show threadJumutaNov 1
bro how do you comfortably use $, ^ and 0 for navigation??
Show threadmartinbNov 1
Much easier than pressing arrow keys like a maniac 😄
Show threadJumutaNov 1
who even uses arrow keys these days?
Show threadmartinbNov 2
I have a colleague who I have to watch when he is editing code or in the terminal. Very frustrating to watch
Show threadJerkface (any/all)Nov 1

(scoffs:) Arrow keys.

You’re not talking to Notepad users.

Show threadexprNov 1
It’s simply muscle memory. You think of the action and your fingers do it faster than you can consciously think of where they need to go. But I also use a split ergonomic keyboard (the Iris) and have symbols accessible from home row behind a layer. Though I can switch to a standard keyboard as needed too.
Iris Keyboard

Show threadJumutaNov 1

oh that’s cool, how do you do home row modifiers like that?

do you use that for normal typing as well or is it just for symbols?

Show threadexprNov 1

A lot of mechanical keyboards these days are programmable using QMK Firmware. I actually use www.caniusevia.com instead though, which uses (a subset of) QMK under the hood but allows programming the keyboard via a Web app on the fly.

For my layout, I have the standard QWERTY layout for the unmodified layer (layer 0, holding no keys). Then I can hold down a thumb key for switching to a different layer, which has things like symbols, F1-F12, Home, End, etc. The layout I use isn’t too far off the default Iris layout, just a few tweaks here and there (like one that allows me to hold a key for control, or tap that key for escape).

QMK Firmware

Open-source keyboard firmware for Atmel AVR and Arm USB families

Show threadpmkNov 1
I have a swedish keyboard because I am swedish, we have three extra letters compared to the english alphabet. Which means that the standard swedish keyboard layout had to tuck away some symbols into very awkward places using AltGr to type. Programming and using Vim is a bad experience with a swedish keyboard imho.
Show thread418_im_a_teapotNov 1
I’ve long wanted a keyboard like that as someone who just writes code all day everyday. But my fear is that I’ll get stuck on a regular keyboard, like when I’m traveling, and just be completely helpless having forgotten how to type normally.
Show threadexprNov 2

It’s not as big of a deal as you might think. You still have a lot of your muscle memory from regular keyboards. It might take a little while to adjust when switching between the two, but it’s not that bad.

If you switch between the two enough, you can actually type on both equally well.

Show threadgandalf_der_12teNov 1
the problem with custom keybindings i have is i work on a lot of different machines (i used 3 different computers yesterday) and keybindings presumably only work on my machine.
Show thread418_im_a_teapotNov 1
Just push your settings to a public github repo or gist and you can wget them. Hell, if you have a domain just setup an easy-to-remember page that redirects to the github link … domain.com/configs. There are so many options for handling this situation.
Show threadexprNov 2
That’s why vim is so great: it has a ton of power built right into it without customizations, and it’s already installed on basically any unix-like system. Unlike, say, vscode, it can do a ton of stuff out of the box without any plugins at all.
Show threadRain World: Slugcat GameDec 13
hrhm are the vim games in the editor itself?? hrrhhm ,':) ‘,:) ,’:)
Show threadembed_meNov 1
goto editor for C programming. (Pun intended)
Show threadexprNov 1
Been using it for all of my software development for the last 10 years. It’s fantastic.
Show threadNeverclearNov 1
Here here. vim with syntax highlighting on an 80x20 tty with monospace font… I don’t know If I’m more productive than the next guy, and I don’t care. This is my happy place.