「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)Youtube can detect VPNs now... the fuck?
unexposedhazardThis isnt new. Its been happening for years. There is a post about this on lemmy every few weeks. It just doesnt happen consistently, so people always think that they “discovered” this for the first time.
But this is even dumber than before, you can’t even login to bypass. What about people living in a country where youtube is blocked. I guess Google just says “fuck 'em”?
I see. I havent had a Google account for like 8 years, so i didnt notice the difference.
What about people living in a country where youtube is blocked. I guess Google just says “fuck 'em”?
Yyep.
If you’re using a VPN, you’re likely anonymized and not directly making YouTube any money. So they don’t care.
They said logging in doesn’t make it go away. Being logged in means they can already track you, so this is pretty ridiculous of them tbh.
DrDystopiaBeing logged in means they can track what you watch. Being logged in via a VPN means they can’t track your location.
Literally valuable information.
SmokeyDopeA few days ago I gotta message from google saying they “can’t verify my age” (meaning they want gov ID I’m sure) so I’m forced to use safe search and other stuff too.
Fuck. That!
Miles O'BrienI guess Google just says “fuck 'em”?
Yes, 100%, absokutely correct.
Google is a company.
Companies do not care about you. You are not a person, you are a number.
Google is a company multi-billion dollar corporation.
Companies Multi-billion dollar corporations do not care about you. You are not a person, you are a number.
(Well ok, there is plenty of small business who also don’t care about you, that’s not my point).
Trillion*
You can count the number of companies this rich on one hand.
Possibly linuxWhy is YouTube blocked?
Authoritarianism.
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Quokka (on the move...)@DeathByBigSad @unexposedhazard VPN to a location where it's not blocked and YT hasn't (yet) block-listed the VPN endpoint IP.
BBC have also been good at blocking for years.
BBC have also been good at blocking for years.
halcyoncmdrVPNs aren’t hard to detect, especially if you’re using a major service.
100% this, I work in cyber sec and it’s very easy these days for services to detect this.
What about TOR browser?
x00zFeel sorry for the guy in the datacenter using Netflix on his brake.
Must be hard to see all the way down in the foot well.
Yo dawg, we heard you like Netflix so we put Netflix on yo brakes so when you brake you can watch Netflix, dawg,
That seems like a failure on their part. Buy more exit IPs.
There’s a lot more than just recognizing known raw IP addresses used as endpoints.
One method larger services with CDNs use effectively is to use DNS for blocking. When you try to access a site, your DNS request will resolve to a server close to you, with your location determining the domain resolving to a different IP. Then the platform just responds to those requests from outside their normal area with a consistent message. No need to know whether it’s actually a VPN or not, the traffic is acting like it is and doesn’t really have much of a reason to do that normally.
Well, you can put your DNS requests over the proxy as well, so kinda a skill issue. I don’t know if people do though - you’re the professional.
A_norny_mousseThis happens via simple lists of IP addresses, no? I.e. the VPN has a limited number of exit IPs and once it’s known who they belong to, they’re easy to block?
If only you don’t serve ads containing literal porn to my face with my VPN off 😡😡
😮 you use a vpn to avoid porn? That’s a novel use case.
I block porn with my firewall so I have to VPN to get around it.
NovalingCouldn’t you just use uBlock and/or NextDNS/PiHole to avoid porn ads rather than use a VPN?
This is for the mobile app. On desktop I already use uBO.
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BaroqueInMindHow on iOS?
So, this works for me but ymmv.
I’m on iOS and have the Ghostery browser installed. It’s no longer maintained but I genuinely don’t care for this use.
If I bring up a list of YouTube videos, long press one, and choose to open in a new ghost tab, it treats me as a new unique visitor and -usually- does not show ads. This is without any sort of blocking within the browser beyond what it does by default (and they do maintain an extension for Firefox, so their blocklists stay up to date for the browser even if it’s not actively maintained)
You can repeat this indefinitely with new tabs.
I do also have a pihole set up, but that doesn’t seem to impact YouTube ads so I doubt that’s the reason it works.
I don’t know if other browsers with anonymized browsing would do the same, as I genuinely don’t know of any available on iOS.
Websites have been able to detect VPN usage for a long time.
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starlingukWhich one do you suggest?
i personally use mullvad (for something quick because i love their ethos) and windscribe (paid) for port forwarding
Thanks!
FYI, most Mullvad exit nodes are blocked by big services.
You have to try different ones to find one that works. I have found just a couple that work for, for example, Netflix or Reddit.
Proton and PIA seemed to be easier, I think they have more exits and/or rotate the IP addresses of the exits.
I like Mullvad as a company better so I use them.
I use Mullvad servers in South America and Southeast Asia for youtube and it works. No issues with Netflix with the servers in Europe and Asia that I use.
One of my reddit accounts was locked/suspended when I logged in though, and I can’t unlock it because it doesn’t have an email attached to it for account recovery. But just browsing isn’t an issue with old.reddit.
reddit has always been able to detect vpn/vps, its just they dont ban you immediately, if they even detect your IP, or fingerprinting pattern it usually a shadowban. thats why people used other methods to evade it.
I think they offer unique ips if you request.
TOR?
Brb, gonna change the circuit 20 times to find that one exit IP that didn’t get blocked.
Also waiting 10 minutes for the video to load, xD
AxolotlHonestly, Newpipe gets blocked more often than just using browser. Probably because of they detected API calls or something.
Try pipepipe, haven’t had it blocked ever for the couple yeara I’ve used it
I use it, great app but I have seen my VPN blocked every once in a while. I end up changing IP addresses three or four times before it works again.
That’s a YouTube problem, they block VPN connections for not logged in users