Tomorrow, the 26th of October 2025, Sunday, will be a very historic day:
- #TimorLeste becomes the 11th member of #ASEAN
Welcome to the group! Now you can join our ASEAN family feuds. /rawr
Just remember, we stand together if non-ASEANs join the fray. π€ͺ
#Philippines #Singapore #Indonesia #Thailand #VietNam #LaoPDR #Laos #Brunei #Cambodia #Myanmar #Burma #Malaysia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Timor-Leste_to_ASEAN
https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aksesi_Timor_Leste_ke_Perhimpunan_Bangsa-Bangsa_Asia_Tenggara
https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penerimaan_Timor_Leste_ke_ASEAN
https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ti%E1%BA%BFn_tr%C3%ACnh_%C4%90%C3%B4ng_Timor_gia_nh%E1%BA%ADp_ASEAN
Seems like #ABC is into #GenocideDenial - "gained independence from Indonesia in 2002 after more than two decades of occupation" [1] - nothing about the #EastTimorGenocide [2]. #Reuters mentions *neither* the #IndonesianOccupation nor the genocide [3]. There just happened to be a referendum. Thanks to Reuters, Palestine has an easy way to freedom: hold a referendum! Easy peasy!
@boud Ummβ¦ I'm confused as to what ABC news has to do with my post welcoming Timor-Leste into ASEAN. Also, there are many issues each member country, yes, including the 11th member, are going through. It doesn't mean it's being ignored or will be ignored, on the contrary, them joining opens them up for more scrutiny. π
I mean, I even included these:
> Welcome to the group! Now you can join our ASEAN family feuds. /rawr
>
> Just remember, we stand together if non-ASEANs join the fray.
To lighten the post. And especially since we ASEANs, even at the grassroots level, tend to be very competitve (and trash talking) at each other. Timorians joining the ASEAN is themselves opening their people and culture to that kind of internal family feuds.
At times, it can be very serious to the point that it opens up old wounds (and you'll see us throwing harsh words at each other in various online communities), and at times, just being funny, trying to laugh to get through our harsh reality.
In a way, that's me also giving a warning to Timorians. It won't be a walk in the park.
We, ASEANs, are like a family-clan. At the grassroots level, it's like a sibling rivalry. At the political level, it's 10βnow 11βbranches of the clan bickering at each other.
The Philippines and Malaysia are also in a serious row (yet again): Sabah. Indonesia also has a claim to it. (What many are ignoring is that only parts of Sabah is being claimed by the Philippines through the Sultanate of Sulu, not the entirety of it; I'm not sure about Indonesia's claim.)
So, I'm confused. What's the issue with welcoming Timor-Leste as the 11th member of ASEAN?
In any case, ASEAN and its peoples are not easy to understand for non-ASEANs. The organization itself even have a non-interference policy. π
- We are a land of diversity and contradictions.
- We bicker at each other at all levels, but we stand together if attacked from the outside. π (Except in the political level if it involves China and the USA, each to their own. π
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Exactly like a family, LOL.
In all seriousness, we're a land if diversity and contradictions. For example, I'm welcoming Timorians, but I lost faith in ASEAN. π€ͺ
If you're not familiar, look for ASEAN balls. @gombang surely knows it too. I think ASEAN balls pretty much summarised what ASEAN is?
@youronlyone 1/2 I agree that it's internally up to ASEAN states to negotiate #ConflictResolution and #TransitionalJustice processes.
But the ABC is primarily intended at an AU audience, not ASEAN. Extermination of 20% of a population [2] is #genocide. *Western* media hiding this genocide by omission while emphasizing the #CambodianGenocide was a key example of quantitative evidence for the Western media #PropagandaModel [4][5].
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model#Coverage_of_%22enemy%22_countries
@youronlyone 2/2 The Wikipedia URLs were just background to anyone following. The fact that there are versions in 4 ASEAN langs is a positive sign of grassroots (non-state) cooperation.
Personally, I'm happy that Timor Leste is joining ASEAN. The EU +other Euro structures are themselves a messy, imperfect, unfinished process - overall positive IMHO, but including some ongoing #CrimesAgainstHumanity [6][7][8].
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@boud Ahh! Thank you. I was confused about it. π
Yep! Grassroots is the most important, though the ASEAN organization itself focuses too much at the top level. π Still, it's improving. Or, maybe just needs more exposure.
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