'This is definitely my last TwitchCon': High-profile streamer Emiru was assaulted at the event, even as streamers have been sounding the alarm about stalkers and harassment

https://lemmy.zip/post/51330083

'This is definitely my last TwitchCon': High-profile streamer Emiru was assaulted at the event, even as streamers have been sounding the alarm about stalkers and harassment - Lemmy.zip

> “To tell you honestly, I am a lot more hurt and upset by how Twitch handled it during and after the fact.”

The streamers think they’re the stars and partners with the streaming company…

But the company is always going to treat them as products with incredibly short shelf lives under even the best conditions.

Twitch doesn’t view them as real people, and knows even if they do quit or are harmed even killed, millions of barely adults would kill to take their place.

The problem is kick, that grows up with much better revenue split while Twitch is so incompetent that they may at some point lose the first mover advantage
As much as Twitch needs gutting, Kick is much worse.
Right? Kick literally had a mentally ill man die on stream and tried to erase their tracks to avoid responsibility.

Twitch has no competiton. As of 2024 they had 61% of total watch time across all live streaming platforms. It’s the kind of share that other industries would kill to have. None of the other streaming markets or even VOD platforms can achieve these numbers.

Take music streaming, Spotify only has ~32% of the market share even though they are kind of ubiquitous with music streaming at this point.

As of 2024 they had 61% of total watch time

Out of curiosity, how much did they have in 2019?

I like where thone numbers are going.
Toward YouTube and Google instead? If you say so.
I don’t know where you’ve got those figures from, but according to this source, youTube has over 50% of the live streaming market, as measured in watch-hours. Then it’s TikTok, and then twitch.
Yearly Live Streaming Trends Report of 2024

Download the report covering the biggest trends in live streaming of 2024. Dive into Twitch, Kick, and YouTube data of last year.

Stream Hatchet

Either that’s paid, or my browser’s being funny and not letting me download it. I found what appears to be a breakdown of those stats here: streamlabs.com/…/streamlabs-and-stream-hatchet-q4…

The numbers match up to your claim, give or take. You’ll notice, however that that’s only talking about gaming streams.

Streamlabs and Stream Hatchet Q4 2024 Live Streaming Report

The latest live streaming platform data

Streamlabs
It sounds like Twitch staff didn't handle this well and Emiru is calling them out on it. Even though they claim the individual was dealt with immediately, it sounds like it took Emiru pushing for it for anything to happen and that they pressured her to do in person meet and greets when she felt uncomfortable about them. Curious beyond that how could Twitch as an organization make things safer for streamers like her.
screams reckless endangerment
If by dealt with immediately they let him go and just gave him a 30 day ban initially, then yes. She had to talk to her manager who then talked to Twitch who then upped that ban to a permanent one. And I don’t even think the police has been involved yet.
Amazon wanted to brush this under the carpet…
I really miss the pre-amazon days of Twitch…
I can imagine that this type of celebrity attracts the most unhinged obsessed fans with borderline personality disorder and/or other potentially dangerous and antisocial behaviors.
dont talk about their fans like that!
30 day ban from twitch events
Certainly an environment that encourages a lot of people to just be nice to everyone in stream by default (except when someone is deemed acceptable to be yelled at and laughed at by everyone else for content…) and some people are lonely enough that they read a little too much into “HI [username]!”

That’s not an excuse to assault somebody

Hold people accountable instead of blaming the victim

attracts the most unhinged obsessed fans

Did we read the same message?

Pointing out who is likely to be a fan of hers isn’t “blaming the victim”. It’s being realistic about what she has to deal with. It shouldn’t happen, but bad people exist. Can’t ignore that.
You need to re-read that comment

Who’s blaming the victim?

I’m blaming the one-way relationship celebrity culture. It seems like a breeding ground for people with serious social issues.

Let’s be honest here, Emiru is literally a bland do-nothing loser who cultivated her fan… I mean cult in a certain way to make it easier for her to fleece money off of desperate men.

No one’s denying it is assault. In fact a lot of people say incident was waaaaaay too outrageous to be not considered staged. (Remember the whole Amouranth’s fake abuse case where she framed her husband & was later revealed to be bullshit.)

At the end of the day, the person will go to jail, but this was a case of their toxic manipulative behaviour backfiring on them.

You make the women in your life uncomfortable.
Says the creep.
What you’ve just done here is called “victim-blaming”
I believe you skipped over the part where I said it was assault

Acknowledging it was assault is not the same thing as not blaming the victim. People who say “she deserved to get raped” are acknowledging that a victim was raped.

I’ve not looked into Amouranth. This thread is about Emiru. Who is not culpable - in any way - for her assault. This is not something “backfiring” on her.

she was asking for it

Are you hearing yourself right now?

That’s YOUR interpretation. The correct one is she doesn’t deserve it; but let’s not kid ourselves. If it was someone like Asmongold (who I don’t like) you’d be singing a very different tune
Not technology

Which posts fit here?

Anything that is at least tangentially connected to the technology, social media platforms, informational technologies and tech policy.

That may be what it says in the sidebar, but this is objectively not technology
"Technology means what I want it to mean."
is a fistfight at best buy “technology”?
Are they fighting over the merchandise or is it a personal matter?
merch, but it’s the last mountain dew in the impulse buy fridge
“Tangentially” doing some heavy lifting here.
That’s just bad modding.

Technology definition is so broad that it could fit 90% of the general news into it.

I understand that everyone feels that technology should only apply to what they think technology is, but that’s why there is a section in the sidebar to specify what it means in this community.

Definition of TECHNOLOGY

Definition of 'technology' by Merriam-Webster

As a mod obviously you're the one that gets to decide for this community. This is obviously not technology, but whatever, you get to do what you want here
Okay, you define "technology" for us, then. Let's see your brilliant solution.
At a bare minimum it has to be related to a tool or functionality of a tool. So you could stretch the definition to things on a stream, but not to a convention of celebrities
The merriam webster link doesn’t support your “so broad that it could fit 90% of the general news into it.” at all. This is just celebrity news. Just because pcgamer reported on it doesn’t make it technology.

Emiru did a short stream going into additional details about the incident, as well as some other fuck-ups by Twitch staff that weren't mentioned in this article.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_USuIpVAqAw

tl;dw: Emiru calls out Twitch for lying about the situation in their official statements, expresses concern for what sort of response a smaller streamer would've gotten if they were attacked like this, and draws attention to Twitch's lack of security and professionalism. Twitch staffers originally laughed about the situation to Emiru's face, and didn't seem to care until the video went viral. They ran background checks on everybody who signed up for her meet-and-greet event, but the attendees were allowed to bring a plus-one with them, who did NOT have to get background checked. Twitch staff also allowed people to walk around even after their badges couldn't scan properly.

Also, because this isn't anywhere near the first time Emiru has been attacked in public, she points out that she's spent tens of thousands of dollars for her own private security, and wasn't even allowed to bring her preferred bodyguard with her because he's permanently banned from Twitch events due to restraining a stalker during a previous event.

Twitch fucked up big time here.

Addressing what happened at TwitchCon

YouTube

Also, because this isn’t anywhere near the first time Emiru has been attacked in public, she points out that she’s spent tens of thousands of dollars for her own private security, and wasn’t even allowed to bring her preferred bodyguard with her because he’s permanently banned from Twitch events due to restraining a stalker during a previous event.

What the fuck? They banned her bodyguard for protecting her and then asked her to come back without him? It’s like they wanted her to get assaulted.

I feel crazy for even saying it, but yeah, that is exactly what it looks like to me. Like Twitch staff specifically wanted this to happen, as some sort of revenge against her for mistreating their fellow predators.
Exactly how I felt
“Assault drama is great for algorithmic engagement” - Twitch prolly
In fairness we’re taking that comment as face value without knowing what level of violence “restraining a stalker” entailed.
From how she describes it in the video, he apparently held the stalker by the arm until police arrived. It doesn't seem like he roughed the guy up or injured him at all. It really seems like Twitch applied the "no touching" rule to the wrong person.
It seems like they need her at their event for credibility, but she doesn’t really need them. They fucked up by not recognizing this, and now they are going to lose her drawing power at future events. And all they had to do was protect a girl from known weirdos. Nice job, dickheads.
There’s at least one individual inside the company that was involved in that decision. They should all have liability here, as individuals.

Press x for doubt

A bit closer to he got a wee bit violent and a legal bruh ha ha ensued.

This is the second or third version of this story that I’ve heard in this comment chain and I’m having trouble searching for articles about the original incident, hits from the new one are flooding the results. Do you happen to have a link to more info?
Were you going for “brouhaha”?

Banned her bodyguard :: chefs kiss ::

Great job Twitch, real A+ quality work! Hope the entire company goes bankrupt.

Last I heard, it’s not exactly profitable, but it has Amazon money behind it, so that will take a while
This is fucked. Fuck twitch.