herseycokguzelolacakThe Ofcom Tea Party: 4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence, British regulator claims “sovereign immunity” to defend itself – and sovereign powers to regulate foreign companies
USians are surprised that they must follow the foreign law if they do business (achieve income) outside of the USA.
borariIm going to take a charitable read on this and just assume that you’re misunderstanding or uninformed of the context at the core of this, because nothing of what you said is really applicable.
Read again than.
The idiot writing this blog is surprised that 4chan must follow UK law while having customers/users in the UK.
Which part is not applicable?
The part where they have any infrastructure, operations, revenue, or presence at all in the UK. They don’t, so the UK doesn’t have jurisdiction. This isn’t like the Apple stuff, where physical Apple products are being sold at retail in the EU/UK. UK residents are intentionally navigating to a website outside UK jurisdiction. If a UK resident goes to Mallorca on holiday, Spanish laws, not UK laws, apply because they’re in fucking Spain.
Also you should probably click that About page on the linked blog dude. Unless some American just randomly wound up at UCL in 1988 then graduates, stayed in the UK, and got a job at UCW Aberystwyth, you might want to rethink the random bullshit you’re spouting off as fact lol.
The part where they have any infrastructure, operations, revenue, or presence at all in the UK.
Do you understand how the Internet is working? You don’t have to have an infrastructure in a country to be present there.
USians need to get used to following the law. Shocking, I know.
sorghumYeah, I don’t think you really understand how the internet works. Their presence is in the country where their servers are. People from the UK essentially go to another country to visit 4chan. If the UK doesn’t like that the onus should be on them to block that access, but that is also a stupid idea thanks to VPNs.
Their income is derived from the UK users. They can either block the UK traffic (which they don’t want as it would mean less money) or engage with the regulator regarding harmful contents they have been fined for:
The controversial online forum 4chan risks being blocked in the UK after refusing to pay a fine from Ofcom for breaking [rules set by the Online Safety Act]).
The website, which hosts adult content, was handed a £20,000 for failing to share information about the risk of illegal content on its platform.
Media watchdog Ofcom said action would be taken against companies that “flagrantly fails to engage with Ofcom and their duties under the Online Safety Act”.
Does the UK think they have jurisdiction over my server just because some twat from the UK visits my site? If so, there’s a reason why we fought a war nearly 250 years ago that said that a stupid fucking idea. Colonialism is a dead ideology
Does the UK think they have jurisdiction over my server just because some twat from the UK visits my site?
Yes. You are providing services to the UK users and deriving income from these services.
If so, there’s a reason why we fought a war nearly 250 years ago
Get used to it. Apple get fined by the EU multiple times, Microsoft also from memory lost some cases in the EU despite lack of physical presence.
Apple also sells a physical product in the UK. Microsoft and Apple both sell a virtual service/product in the UK. 4chan only gets revenue from you looking at posters and clicking those posters on their website.
UK can get fucking bent. Come and take it.
UK can get fucking bent. Come and take it.
I assure you this is what will happen. If 4chan won’t pay the fine, they will be blocked in the UK by the Internet service providers (as this is the next step in the process). They will then see that non compliance with Ofcom decision is significantly more expensive than compliance.
You’re deluded if you think the UK is going to get a cent from 4chan. The most they can do is direc their ISPs to block 4chan IPs but that wont stop people from tunneling to the site. Thats all they have the legal jurisdiction to do like it or not
4chan will pay the fine and engage immediately when it is blocked in the UK as it will result in their top line getting hit. You are deluded if you think otherwise.
Why would 4chan pay the fine? Its not like 4chan will take all that much of a hit because people can tunnel out and still participate in however 4chan monetizes if they really wanted to. Also lmao seize assets. 4chan has no assets in the UK to seize afaik.
How much money do you think 4chan gets from the UK? I promise it’s not much.