Kamala Harris appears to blame ‘people not voting’ for 2024 loss to Trump as book tour gets off to rocky start

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Kamala Harris appears to blame ‘people not voting’ for 2024 loss to Trump as book tour gets off to rocky start - Lemmings.world

Lemmy

Sore loser. Trump is the president righ now that’s the reality so you have two options you fight against Trump with people and you just shut the F up

Why would she fight against trump? You guys keep demanding democrats stand up to trump and the moment one does you guys shit on them and break them down. You guys demanded old white Biden be removed and replaced with a younger candidate, so they replace him with an educated black woman and you guys are like “eeew not that”

If I were a democrat I would let you guys burn until you’re begging for me

How can you two contradictory statement back to back?

Why would she fight against trump?

You guys keep demanding democrats stand up to trump and the moment one does you guys shit on them and break them down

All what the article talk about is Harris crying about her defeat. I don’t know where do you that she is fighting back.

All what the article talk about is Harris crying about her defeat. I don’t know where do you that she is fighting back.

“I can be your champion. All I ask is your sword.”

But you smell

“Yes but the other guy literally said he would rape your wife, and also he burned down the village last time, and also he smells.”

He will be our champion

“Okay then, fuck you”

Okay number one, rude, number two, what are you doing to protect us against this guy? He raped my wife and I think that’s really fucked up. You didn’t even try to stop him or anything.

But you smell

I am not in your room that mean it must be you who smell

You guys demanded old white Biden be removed and replaced with a younger candidate, so they replace him with an educated black woman and you guys are like “eeew not that”

I’m pretty sure I predicted that as soon as Biden was replaced, all the anguished whining about Biden would be replaced with anguished whining about his replacement (which was precisely what happened). Invariably that prediction was met with “HOW DARE YOU SAY WE SHOULD NOT REPLACE BIDEN” which is a whole new sentence.

The thing of taking Biden’s most massive and unforgivable sin (Gaza) and blaming it instantly on Harris also because why not she was in the building also, and how flawlessly that worked, is a big giveaway that it was never about addressing actual flaws in the actual Democratic candidate in the first place.

If I were a democrat I would let you guys burn until you’re begging for me

I mean, if you were a Democrat you would be still collecting campaign contributions and trying to figure out how to weather this current storm without it really upsetting your retirement account. I do think that a big part of the problem is that with a few rare exceptions, establishment Democrats and establishment Republicans are both largely shitty and craven, and so they are equally unmotivated to try to stop Trump in a real sense now that shit’s getting increasingly and increasingly real. Just listen to Pritzger talk something about his frustration trying to get any kind of support now that he’s stuck his neck way out in an absolutely vital fight which we have to win.

What we needed was major criminal trials on day 1, oriented around Jaunary 6th. What we needed was AOC leading the oversight committee. At an absolute bare minimum, stuff like that. There’s a lot of hate that goes towards the Democrats that is undeserved (and often specifically engineered to benefit Republicans and then bought into by suckers), but I do think it mostly only works because there’s a pretty solid grain of truth “Well you fucking guys are clearly not the answer, so why do you expect my support.” for it to all get artfully wrapped around to give additional strength.

Sore loser

Politicians aren’t athletes. She didn’t lose. The American people chose Trump. The American people lost.

Politicians are worst than athlete when it comes to being sore losers

she keep blaming other people for losing the election

Again you think she’s an athlete because that’s how the press frames it. An election is a contest of the people.

“Other people” are actually the ones that lost the election.

If you don’t like the term lose, fine. You just trying to create a fake problem. The reality is trump became the president and she didn’t. Instead of keep tqlking about the election that ended she keep complaning about it instead of fighting along people to protect democracy that Trump try to destroy. The reality is that she is just here to sell a book
Fight? Americans told her to go away. It’s Americans’ fault we have Trump. There’s nothing wrong with her telling you an inconvenient truth. You aren’t forced to buy the book.
Do you realize that she still an American living in the USA . Everybody should fight for their countries. Don’t cry if one day Trump goes full authoritarian and start jailing any opposition

Don’t cry if one day Trump goes full authoritarian and start jailing any opposition

???

She put in 8 years for America. What have you done?

Don’t deflect
That’s not a deflection! She actually fought for 8 years and yet you attack her while doing nothing.
You are deflecting from the fact that Trump is trying to create an authoritarian regime so politicians who are against it should do what they have to do not for the population freedom only but herself too . If she don’t want to join the fight she should simply fall into obscurity and live a regular life . But you are a cultist and you want understand

You are deflecting from the fact that Trump is trying to create an authoritarian regime

Yet you expect everyone to fight for you while you do nothing but criticize.

If she don’t want to join the fight she should simply fall into obscurity and live a regular life .

That’s what writing a book is! Like Ulysses Grant who wrote a book in retirement.

Yet you expect everyone to fight for you while you do nothing but criticize.

I expect everyone to fight for themselves against the threat of authoritarianism but you are just a cultist worshiping certain politicians

That’s what writing a book is

Writing a book is for you to immortalized and not fall into the obscurity of History. Your book may be transferred over decades from someone to someone else

cultist worshiping certain politicians

How is letting someone who fought for America for 8 years have some time off a “cultist”?

Writing a book is for you to immortalized and not fall into the obscurity of History.

Ulysses Grant wrote his book specifically for money! en.wikipedia.org/…/Personal_Memoirs_of_U._S._Gran…

Personal Memoirs of U. S. Grant - Wikipedia

You can’t say a single minor critisism about your cult and your cult leader

Your complaint about money was bad- as I showed Grant wrote a book for money too.

No one is wearing Harris hats. Your use of the word cult is wrong.

Both USA party are cults. The republican cult is worse but you guys are still terrible cultislts

My critisism was not about caring about making money but for only caring about that but as a cultist you only want to hear what you want to here

want to hear what you want to here

You not understanding that Americans chose Trump doesn’t make me a cult member.

Your position is, “Agree with me or you are in a cult.”

That’s exactly what a cult leader would say.

With your logic, if I don’t publicly criticize Zohran Mamdani for the rest of his life, I’m in a cult.

Your position is absurd.

48% of americans voted for her yet you don’t care about them and want Harris to sbondon them. You are a cultist because of that

Harris to sbondon them. You are a cultist because of that

Harris needs to be a slave to your demands or I am in a cult?

Jimmy Carter abandoned politics and spent the rest of his life working for charity. You think I am in a cult because of what Jimmy Carter did?

That’s beyond absurd.

That’s some serious cope
She’s RIGHT! If ONLY people Had SOMEONE to Vote for Trump would have LOST!
Why doesn’t she fight along people against Trump ruining the country?
People didn’t vote for her, nothing she can do now. They’ll just wait for the next election, sorry.
She could be vocal. Leadership matters even if they aren’t in office. Instead, she’s milking her book deal. That’s what has me turned off to her.
Yes she can protests with other like bernie and aoc does
She's talking up Hillary's mantle, and that woman couldn't put a sock in it for 40 years, while also thinking she was clever for getting Don on the ballot, nevermind worshipping at the altar of Kissenger.
Am I so out of touch? No, it’s the children who are wrong.
Centrists look at both sides of the mirror and find the middle ground between reality and a black void.

How can she be this tone deaf? No one wants to hear from you, Kamala. Not the time. We’re dealing with the fallout of your horrid campaign.

I regret my Kamala vote (moreso my faith in her leading up to the election) more every day, and I am in despair over this administration.

lol

I love this take. “I regret voting for the person who wasn’t a fascist, I wish I had actually voted for the fascist. Real Lemmy Leftists™ like me don’t vote for democratic candidates and neither should you, zealous support for Trump is the only real way to bring down those evil Centrists!!!”

oooh~ so smart. No, I wasn’t going to vote for Trump. Nothing I said supported Trump. I specifically said I dislike this administration; yet Clearly backing Center-Right Biden and Kamala didn’t work, because it plunged us Back into fascism. Now, if you’d like to contribute something to how we could have avoided a Trump presidency, you can join me on what I’ve been spiraling on for the last year. Otherwise, keep it to yourself.
B…but muh GenocideJoe.

I’m so fucking tired of that spin.

It’s like a restaueant owner who offered a crappy menu of poorly cooked food that nobody wanted in the first place blaming the restaurant’s failure on the people who refused to eat there.

… Except the alternative was someone shitting on all of the food in the county.

Except the ones that they cook at home, so they just stayed in.

Your analogy would be better in Australia where voting is compulsory.

The ones that stayed home still get shit in their food
You may not pay attention to politics but politics sure will pay attention to you.
Which is exactly why the Democrat establishment should’ve done a better job of appealing to voters.
The option being “not a fascist” should have been enough for people. But looks like people don’t have any sense of self preservation.
Then the democrats should have offered a “not a fascist” option
Except the only options were corporate fascism or national fascism. Yeah, she was the better choice, but the democrats are a right wing fascist party by corporations. They make people not want to vote for them because they aren’t doing anything to improve our lives. At least Republicans lied to their voters that they would change things for them.

Let’s say I agree with you - it should’ve been enough.

So ? How does that make a fucking bit of difference? Everybody with a working brain knew already, after 2016 and 2020, that there was some notable chance that, like it or not, it wasn’t going to be enough.

And the solution was easy - the whole thing could’ve been avoided just by offering up a candidate who wasn’t a pro-zionist, pro-corporate, pro-billionaire slimeball. Yes - maybe the case can be made that people should vote for a pro-zionist pro-corporate pro-billionaire slimeball when the alternative is a deranged fascist, but the simple fact is that there’s some number of people who, in that situation, are just going to say “fuck it” and stay home instead.

And anybody with a working brain who even briefly considered the matter had to know that that was the case.

Which means that anyone who thought that was a good strategy anyway is a fucking moron at best, and they and nobody else deserve the blame for following such a dumbass strategy.

Crazy they did even worse than that

But dems find a way

This is the worst analogy I’ve ever seen
Yeah if people clearly understood if they dont eat this shit food then theyll be eating litteral shit. But time after time its clear most people are stupider then anyone could imagine.

It is specifically a Dim Sum restaurant, and the DNC rolled out the same shitty cold unwanted dim sum on the carts with a side of Liz Cheney to try and make it appetizing to Maga chuds.

Maga chuds don’t go to dim sum restaurants and your actual patrons don’t want cold shit and Liz Cheney. No wonder your restaurant gets voted last place in a two person race.

And I’m so fucking tired of this “both sides” nonsense.

When the choice is between a politician you don’t like and a fucking fascist, the choice is clear. Well it should be. But there are people upset that there are “no good choices” so they just let the worst happen. No sense of self preservation, just complain that the choice that wasn’t fascism wasn’t good enough. It should be enough that it prevents fascism, but here we are, with people like you.

No, this is like there being two items in the menu, one that you don’t love and one that will poison you, and people have a hard time deciding for some reason.

It should be enough that it prevents fascism

It doesn’t, though, and that’s the problem

Exactly. Copmala and the Democrats love rolling over for fascists.

a politician you don’t like and a fucking fascist

Holocaust Harris was also a fascist

You Russian bots are hilarious.
Man, you people are just fascists now, you realize? You support genocide and accuse anyone who doesn’t of being an agent of the Judeo-Bolshevick plot.

“both sides”

lol

What is that - the Democrat apologist all-purpose strawman? You just call every point of view you desperately want to dismiss out of hand a “both sides” position?

I didn’t “both sides” anything.

My point is very simple - if the Democrats want people to vote for their candidate, they have to offer a candidate people want to vote for.

It’s really just that simple.

And if they can’t be bothered to even do that, then that’s their fault and nobody else’s.

And yes - if course you believe that people who didn’t vote for the somewhat less objectionsble pro-genocide, pro-corporate, pro-billionaire slimeball are awful, stupid fuck-ups - that’s the official Democratic spologist line that gets trotted out just like clockwork every time the subject comes up, and the exact spin I was talking about.

But here’s a bit of news for you and the DNC and the rest of their apologists - it doesn’t fucking matter what you think. The simple fact is that, for whatever reason and entirely regardless of your views on the matter, some significant number of people who would otherwise have voted for the Democrat candidate if they’d been an actual leftist are going to say “fuck it” and stay home if you try to push a sleazy neo-lib hack on them instead. It doesn’t matter what you think about it - that’s what they’re going to do.

They might well be just as ignorant and short-sighted and awful as you self-affirmingly want to believe them to be, and it still doesn’t matter in the slightest, because that’s how they are and that’s what they’re going to do and that’s just the way it is.

And if you go ahead and try to pish a sleazy neo-lib hack on them anyway, then you’re a fucking moron ar best.