eobetI’m doing #EV research but I’m discovering insane things like batteries being glued shut like on a bloody phone and battery replacement costing more than the entire car, essentially turning it into #ewaste after a decade. In another 50 years there won’t be any new #ClassicCars will there? 🚙🪫
FoxyLad 
@foxylad @KiwiEV sure, I looked into that as well but where I live converting a current classic car to an EV cost as much as a house and the range was abysmal. But what I was talking about was a 2025 car being classic and restored in 2075. Seems to me that will not happen as they will all be e-waste in just a decade or two.
@eobet @KiwiEV I tend to agree about future classic cars, but not because of EVs. I think a) every modern car will be e-waste because of proprietary software; and b) modern cars are so similar none of them will be classic.
Perhaps the only modern car different enough to be venerated (by some) as classic in the future is the cybertruck... which is an EV.
Ron Chmara@eobet @foxylad @KiwiEV almost every single car made 50+ years ago eventually became waste. Over time, we don't use the same fuels, filters, oils, tires, electronics... Pretty much all the consumables, and all the spare parts, go out of production eventually.
Collecting becomes a hobby for those wealthy enough for custom fabrication and finding remaining obsolete or misplaced rarities. Been this way for over 100+ years, though, for most machines, as every production line perishes eventually, no?
@ronabop @foxylad @KiwiEV today, a person with a welder in a garage can keep a 50 year old car alive. I’m told there’s up to 9 different electronic systems controlling just the braking in an EV. What tools do you even use to approach that? Also, my mother always drove old clunkers. Will that even be a possibility in another 25 years? The trend seems to be to swap cars like people swap phones, which is insane!
Gavin Shoebridge@eobet @ronabop @KiwiEV Could I sum up your argument as "complexity is not sustainable"? In which case I agree 100% with you. But consider the hundreds of incredibly precise moving parts in an ICE/gearbox compared to one moving part in an electric motor.
Six years ago I spent several months worrying over buying an EV. Then I bought one (second-hand Leaf), and... IT JUST WORKS. Gets you from A to B with no fuss and no CO2, fun to drive (way more responsive), and cheap to run. Total maintenance cost in that time: one new set of tyres and one new set of wiper blades. No oil changes, brake pads, spark plugs... see what I mean about complexity?
Just do it. And one day you''ll be saying this exact same thing to some random guy on the internet.