Mike Johnson Snaps as Shutdown Arguments Repeatedly Crumble on Air - Even Fox News pushed back on the House speaker’s claims.

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Mike Johnson Snaps as Shutdown Arguments Repeatedly Crumble on Air - Even Fox News pushed back on the House speaker’s claims. - Lemmy.World

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Woof, when Laura Ingraham is to the left of you on an issue, you are way into la la land.
The Republicans can pass this if their reps all vote together, they can’t even get all the Republicans to support them anymore.
I don’t believe they can. They need 60 votes in the Senate.
Except when they used reconciliation to pass 2 budget bills in 2021 when Biden became president, and 2 in 2017 when Trump became president. They use reconciliation to bypass the filibuster after 20 hours thereby allowing just 51 votes to pass budgetary measures… so long as no extraneous non budgetary items, those individually would need 60 and be filed separately at that point.
Sure but the point is that these assholesRepublicans don’t want to use the reconciliation process because then they can’t say, well the Demoncrats voted for it so it’s all their fault you uneducated white people don’t have"affordable" healthcare and why your white racist Charlie Kirk Grandma had no Medicare/Medicaid and for kicked out of her nursing home that their Obese Oligarchy Bill said to do.
They already did that in July.
So they can just do it again.
Now they can. They couldn’t before the financial year rolled over as of today.

So what your saying is that the government shutdown is do to the Republicans inaction.

Shit the entire concept of government shutdowns started in the U.S. during Ronald Regans presidency when he vetoed a spending bill. They basically invented government shutdowns to weaponize the ability to hold basic needs from the people and call it legal to get what they want.

So what your saying is that the government shutdown is do to the Republicans inaction.

It is. Just clarifying why they didn’t just “do it again”.

I may be wrong, but I believe you’re talking about two different types of legislation that have different rules.

The Republicans have the votes for a simple majority, but I don’t think this bill counts as a reconciliation and would require new changes to the senate’s rules (which may or may not be possible).

I could be wrong, but if I was, why haven’t they just pushed it forward?

Because they had to wait till October 1st, and they thought they could use it as another way to complain about anyone left of them and cause more rift/hate. Saying, we’ll send it through reconciliation tomorrow doesn’t sound as good as the “radical left extremists are terrorizing or government” to them. So they will get everything they wanted, with only 51 votes, and the ability to weaponize it. And the Democrats and what not who never got to the negotiating tables will be blamed for not magically stopping something nor doing “enough.”

Have you heard about Kamala not in government anymore’s latest pizza topping? It’s like she’s out of touch!

I thought this was the Trump shutdown, but no it really is the Johnson / Trump / GOP shutdown.

And really when article said he "snapped" I was hoping for something at least mildly traumatic. Or even like snapped to attention, in realization that he was completely in the wrong. sadly, no.

They literally control all the government. And they still couldn’t govern.

If the roles were reversed, I can’t even imagine the right wing media backlash.

The right wing media backlash would make wearing a tan suit look like a friendly Thanksgiving dinner, judging by the fact that there’s any pushback at all right now.
Republicans shut down the government during the Obama years too.
Wyoming has the same number of Senate seats as California.
And South Dakota!!!
The same thing happened in term 1. They controlled everything, still shut down the government on themselves, proving for the 137th time that decade that they are incapable of governing as they can’t even agree amongst themselves, lost a shit ton of GDP in the process, and somehow people still think they’re the fiscally conservative party.
And now half of the VA is shut down. Fuck these obstructionist Republicans
Let’s face it, the VA was on the chopping block already thanks to Trump tightening the purse strings.
I guess I’m a sucker and a loser. Fuck i hate that guy and this admin

tightening the purse strings

Is that really the right phrase to use here? If I took all my family vacation money and spent it on ninja swords from the mall, I don’t think my wife would say, “We can’t go on vacation because my husband is tightening the purse strings.”

Damn.

Guess my apartment neighbor with the necrotic leg from a freak infrection of a flesh-eating virus…

… will not be getting that scheduled amputation and prosthetic.

The medical aid is still available, but if you’re a vet looking for a job, good luck, you’re in your own
Well that is at least less bad news for my neighbor.
Not great, though. Guess what services will be suspended next.
I genuinely do not know, what?
Maybe hint that your neighbor really ought to show up to his appointments on time
Mike Johnson needs to be slapped in the face with a cock untill he publically admits he likes it, and has in fact liked that for a long, long time already.
Did that not drop yet? It was due yesterday?

So the update on that is that the guy who threatened to release the Grindr profile of Mike Johnson:

He has been threatened and intimidated via online communications, he has lawyered up, hr sent what he had to a journalism outlet to be vetted and potentially published, his lawyers have advised him to make no further claims publically, his original video was removed by TikTok…

… and he has fled his home and the state he is originally from, and reports that he can see people he doesn’t know traipsing around his property via his remotely accesible home security cams.

Soooo… yeahhh…

It’s a sin to lie, Mike.
Only if you’re actually a Christian.
Is it a lie if you believe it at the time?
What he’s saying is so absurd and factually unsupported on its surface (Democrats are trying to shut down the government to demand health care for illegal immigrants) that I don’t believe even he believes what he’s saying. He’s just like the rest of them, he’ll say and do whatever he thinks he needs to in order to achieve his ideological ends and wrap himself in the flag and the cross while doing so. No one principled remains in that party.
Right. They don’t say what THEY believe, they say that they want YOU to believe.

I 100% agree. my response was intended to be sarcasm about how full of shit they are. as if they only trick themselves into believing it in the moment and as soon as the moment passes so does their belief.

That isn’t to say I think they actually believe anything they say. I foolishly thought the sarcasm was obvious, I should probably just add /s bt efault.

Ah, the Costanza defense

Collins pointed out that this was impossible. “It’s against federal law for people who are here illegally to get health care,” she said.

I really dislike how ‘health care’ has become a synonym for ‘health insurance policy coverage’. And even so this is still a ridiculous statement in its own right.

Like it’s not already difficult for people here in the U.S.A. to afford. As a vast majority of anything else the ACA adjustment would never trickle down, but it sure as hell will boulder/snowball down. And that’s on top of the Medicaid/Medicare cuts.
He’s worried about that Grindr profile leaking.
No chance these guys are putting their face pics on Grindr.
Isn’t that the guy that has the masturbation app with his son?
Ain’t masturbation if it’s with another man. Checkmate.
I can’t wait to find out what Trump / Putin has been blackmailing this choad with.
Rumor has it he has a Grindr account
it’s thursday. that actually get posted yesterday?
I thought his lawyers were figuring out a legal way to release it.
so he was just fucking with us. gotcha
He got threatened with legal action, he lawyered up, lawyers said he can’t use its release as blackmail but they could help him legally release it. That’s last I heard.

LOL. So?

All MAGA men have Grindr accounts. They crash Grindr whenever they all meet in the same town.

Separately, that choadster has lasted waaaaay longer than I originally thought he would.
Universal healthcare when?
May 1 2028
Obama had a 60-40 Senate for a few months, and the best he could do was the ACA since insurance lobbyists didn’t want to lose their jobs. We’re never getting universal healthcare.

I agree, I don’t think politicians will spearhead the change, it needs to come from labor and student unions pushing for widespread strikes. The reason I think May 1st 2028 is the best target is because of unions coordinating the expiration of labor contacts for that date, because Taft-Hartley basically outlaws coordinating strikes between unions.

may1.uaw.org

May Day 2028

After the historic success of the Stand Up Strike in 2023, UAW President Shawn Fain called on the rest of the labor movement to join our union in preparing to strike on May Day 2028. May Day is the international worker’s day, and it’s our opportunity to create a crisis for the billionaire class to win more for all of us. We know that when workers align their fights to the same timeline, we have more leverage than we do alone. What if we didn’t just do that in a corporate chain or one union, but across the country and the labor movement? Now is the time to get ready to create that crisis for the bosses.

February 31st.

The Republicans are absolutely committed to the lie that the shutdown is because the Democrats are demanding the government pay for illegal aliens’ health care. It doesn’t matter how many times they get corrected; they’ll just keep repeating it.

It’s an interesting experiment in just how brazen a like they’ll be able to get away with. I’m hoping this is the one that finally breaks them, and they lose credibility for good, but the right-wing media bubble is sewn up pretty tight, and so far it seems they’ll believe pretty much anything they’re fed.