Redditsux'Disbelief': Pentagon reporter can't find one military official who liked Hegseth's speech
Well expect all of them to be removed in favor of people who did, by the end of the week.
You won’t find anybody who liked Hegseth’s speech, because it didn’t appeal to anybody. It was both naive and condescending, and it was presented by a guy who nobody would respect in the first place. Nobody thinks the problem with our military is that some general is overweight.
But I’m sure it would be easy to find some people who say they liked the speech. It’s the same way that some people say they like Donald Trump. Strange how often those same people say that he’s the dumbest person on the planet once they get too fed up with him and leave.
No. But you will find boot lickers who want a promotion/more “responsibilities” who will kneel down and asik hegseth if he wants the hot or cold blowie if it gets them the power of the general who got caught yawning.
I don’t think we have enough Fox news hosts to replace them all
InternetCitizen2Newsmax reservists? Draft from OAN?
theneverfoxThey can’t. These people have the guns… That group forced to fly in has command over enough armies to fight the rest of the world and possibly win
And they’re not Trump fans
Yes dumping a large amount of soldiers and while waging an unconstitutional war on the constitutional freedoms of the American people ……that seems like it would be unwise
“All I’ve had from them so far, from the people I’ve talked to, is a combination of disbelief that some of them were made to fly from, some of them, Asia, from all over the world … all the way to Quanico to listen to the same familiar type of culture war complaints that we’ve been having since Trump was reelected,” she added, calling Trump’s remarks a “campaign-style stump speech.”
They love making people do shit like this, and absolutely despise being reminded that someone can make them do it.
As long as they don’t bitch out and resign, this is going to backfire on trump.
Even if he tries to kick them out, they can drag their feet thru the official process, and if trump starts circumventing that widescale, the rest will close ranks and do a coup out of pure self interest.
You don’t get that high up without putting your career over everything, and trump just threatened their careers.
Even if he tries to kick them out, they can drag their feet thru the official process, and if trump starts circumventing that widescale, the rest will close ranks and do a coup out of pure self interest.
Things might get spicy when we finally have folks that decide to uphold their oaths to uphold the Constitution. We certainly haven’t seen any in the Executive Branch yet, and most of the Judicial and Legislative seems to be abdicating their oaths too.
halcyoncmdrNote the oath the enlisted take specifically says they will follow the orders of the President.
That’s not the one that matters.
The officer’s oath does not include that:
I ___, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God. (Title 5 U.S. Code 3331, an individual, except the President, elected or appointed to an office of honor or profit in the civil service or uniformed services)
Foreign and DOMESTIC
Yeah they both say that.
Only one also says they’ll do what the POTUS says.
I’ve already seen the taking point showing up on the right that the “… and domestic” part applies to the “antifa terrorists turning our cities into war zones and besieging federal (especially ICE) buildings.”
I really hope that GOs don’t take the oath lightly. When I taught that lesson to my cadets it was a serious conversation and usually involved stories about commanders I knew who got fired or court-martialed for everything including extra-marital affairs, to belittling subordinates, to fabricating illegal orders (and then breaking international law). I hope it doesn’t come to it, but I imagine that a military court would be less partisan than our current courts have been.
MisterOwlWe certainly haven’t seen any in the Executive Branch yet, and most of the Judicial and Legislative seems to be abdicating their oaths too.
And these generals will follow suit. People keep saying how serious and career-driven they are. What makes you think they won’t put their career over the constitution like everyone else?
”If you don’t like what I’m saying, you can leave the room, of course, there goes your rank, there goes your future” -Trump, to the entire military leadership
If enough of them decide simultaneously that Trump is the main impediment to their careers, then you have a good, old-fashioned military coup.
The federal courts are filled with people appointed through the political process, and a lot of the bullshit that’s made it through the courts is a result of venue shopping to find sympathetic judges. But more importantly, the Trump administration has been losing a lot in court… until the Supreme Court steps in and reverses those rulings on the shadow docket. It’s not the whole judicial branch that’s the problem, just the ones that matter the most.
The legislature isn’t doing its job because it’s controlled by Republicans, and as a party they’ve gone through multiple purges to root out anyone who would put the country or the constitution ahead of Trump’s slightest whim.
The executive branch has been under siege all year, a lot of people were fired without cause, and a lot of other people are resigning or getting fired rather than doing shit that’s illegal and unconstitutional. While in some instances there are lawsuits making their way through the courts, there’s only so much they can do after they get escorted out of the building.
To the best of my knowledge, the leadership of the military has had much more continuity and isn’t so easily stacked with loyalists. You can’t just grab some 20 something techbro douchebag from Elon’s little band of hitler youth, or the last lawyer that was dumb enough to represent Trump and make them a general.
And there is also a big difference between what might be demanded of some congressman or civil servant compared to the military. While I doubt we’ll see anyone directly disobeying an order from the white house that has troops standing around outside federal buildings, I do think it’s pretty likely that an order to nuke an American city would be disobeyed. The question for each of them is where they draw the line. Openly defying orders is not something to be done lightly in the military.
Everyone there would have been the one for commissioned officers right below what you posted.
Karry_17That’s right
lumpenproletariatthe rest will close ranks and do a coup out of pure self interest.
No they won’t, Americans won’t do shit. That much is painfully obvious to everyone in the world by now.
This same group quietly took Trump out of power after Jan 6
I’m surprised that the pentagon reporter is allowed to talk about this.
Soon to be “ex-pentagon reporter….”
Or possibly another citizen deportee. Damn i hate this timeline
Same here that’s crazy
Yeah I had a choice to see the speech from fox news, washington post, or AP. Chose AP being the one they want booted next.
Not good buddy
My favorite part was when Hegseth talked about removing politics from the military, and then trump spent 20 minutes whining about politics.
He meant remove Democrat politics, not GOP ones.
More like anything but MAGAt ones.
Exactly.
These scumbags talk one thing and do the opposite.
They deserve the gallows before they take the rest of that shit country down with them.
I’m afraid it’s far too late for that. You think things are bad now? You just wait. Shit’s gonna start getting extremely ugly when the massive house of cards that is the current US economy starts falling down - which I personally would normally peg to start happening early next year, but with Trump deliberately destroying the very source that would let us all know what’s actually going on in the economy all bets on timing are off. The longer it gets put off, the worse it’s gonna be, however.
I’m just pulling for some Americans to do the right thing and start putting holes in these fascists. Doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen though, they’re happy just memeing their way to hell.
Unlike in the past, there are a million and one ways to avoid reality nowadays (heck, I’m doing so by spending time here). That, and the fact the bulk of the angry gun-owning types are MAGAts. This crash is going to be like none before, so it’s impossible to make predictions (beyond any obvious ones) on what will happen.
Only one thing has ever stopped fascists and Americans are a bunch of goddamn cowards.
While I agree we should be cautious and fight back, that’s just not true. The Business Plot, for example, just sort of didn’t happen and fizzled out. This isn’t to imply nothing should be done, because we definitely need to work to ensure they don’t achieve their goals, but Fascists have lost to less than bullets. This also isn’t saying dead Fascists aren’t desired. It’s only stating that your comment isn’t exactly accurate.
Saying the only way to fight back is by killing people leaves a whole lot of people doing nothing. There’s a lot more you can do besides picking up a gun. Your message plays into their hands, not ours.
I don’t think it would have fizzled out if Smedley Butler went with it.
That’s probably true, but the fact is that it did, with no shots fired.
Again, this isn’t saying what anyone should do, but there is plenty that can be done besides killing people. Almost no one is willing to do that, but there’s still plenty of space for them to resist.
Just like Christian’s don’t consider Christianity anything besides “the truth” American conservatives/maga/gop also don’t think their political beliefs are political, just “common sense”
That’s because they have the IQ of sourdough starter
Wow. Sour Dough starter did NOT deserve that.
At leqst the relationship is reciprocal.
TryenjerHegseth called the generals fat.
did you see how long they had to sit with his talk and trumps and the stupid music playing. well over two hours but how to say.
Humiliation ritual.
pete said hazing wasn’t a bad word anymore, right?
how to make a cesspit… Let’s not replace soldiers and logisticians with steroid junkies please…
Hegseth is a cartoon villain that shouldn’t be anywhere near a position of power
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has reposted and praised a video interview of a self-described Christian nationalist pastor whose church doesn’t believe women should be allowed to vote.
Just an utter scumbag.
🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 We should start treating these goons like actual cartoon villains. Cartoon villains usually get thwarted on a weekly basis.
TheLowestStoneI’d rather see them thwarted once. Permanently.
That’s too kind, they deserve to be the victims in a slasher flick.
It just put them on a Star Trek set wearing their favorite color.
Or just put them on a Star Trek set wearing their favorite color.
Make damn sure it’s TOS, otherwise they’ll be in Command.
Brown is the new red
Browncoat me takes issue with that…
Browncoat
Browncoats were soldiers who fought for the Independent Planets, who lost to the Union of Allied Planets in the Unification War. They were named after the simple, beige brown leather trench coats they wore as uniforms. They also wore red scarves around their necks, red vests, and green combat helmets. In some areas, they wore brown aviator styled uniforms and dark brown bandannas. The simplicity of their gear was because technology and resources were scarce on the Outer Planets. Conversely...
they are more the brownpants types.
Well, that’s shitty…
Shh! That’s how we’re tricking them into showing up!
Oh, that’s what happened!
OBJECTION!They belong in Wolfenstein, let’s be honest.
vaultdweller013Unfair to the Nazis in Wolfenstein, their biggest threat is BJ Blaskowitz. These fuckers biggest threat is a bad heart attack or liver failure.
Got curious… apparently there was a Trump Tower Wolfenstein mod (wolf and doom are easy to mod with simple graphic changes, so I figured someone did it)