"One of the great things about that set was because it was one huge long empty room you could do masters or wide shots with very long lenses and compress the set and still see everybody and that also makes the lighting a little more interesting."
"It's a very interesting set. If you look carefully you'll see each actor had his own work area and there's actually a little living area where the Bishop character lives. There's a little bedroom, there's a bathroom, there's a kitchen. Crease has a very neat desk. Whistler has a desk full of sound equipment, synthesizers. Mother has his completely messy sort of workshop area. I loved shooting in that set."

"Yeah, I liked it too. One thing I remember is every time we turned around it meant lighting a football field, so things took a little longer than I anticipated frequently."

"You still apologizing for that, huh John?" (teasingly)

"No, I was trying to blame [production designer] Patrizia." (laughs)

"This was a beautiful location. It was a private school in Pasadena, I think."

"Uh huh"

"And we had found a wonderful young piano prodigy to...who was really playing, and she was wonderful." 🎹

Note: As he enters, Marty holds a rectangular gift with a red ribbon behind his back (possibly chocolates). The final edit of this scene does not show him attempting to give it to Liz, but we do briefly catch a glimpse of it on the piano as they subsequently walk around the room.

"Mary McDonnell has a lovely quality in this film, of being very feminine while also very strong, and the 'We're not getting back together' was a theme--actually there are many more scenes in which she said it which are cut out of the film, because it was a little, it got to be too much even for me. But she's a terrific actress and I think her chemistry with Bob was very special. She's clearly his equal."
"This was another scene that we did in one master take and kept people moving around and as I recall I wasn't even in the room because there was no place that I could be. I was out in the hallway watching a little monitor, hoping that it was working. We literally see 360 degrees around this room."

"That door in the background as I recall we had a very hard time getting permission to put lights back there."

"Some reason we weren't allowed to see into that room or light it, and now I don't recall what it was that...."

"I think there was a religious--it was a chapel."

"Exactly. Yeah, that's right, you're right. It was a little chapel and they didn't want us to shoot it."

(continued)

"How did we get the lights back there?"

"I think in the end they allowed us to put one in if we did a couple Hail Marys." (laughs)

"If we promised to lead a good life."

"That's right. I'd rather light at 2K than curse the darkness." (laughing)

Note: I believe John is talking about the wattage of the lighting here (viz., 2000 W, or 2kW).

The Pasadena school appears to have been the Mayfield Senior School of the Holy Child Jesus, a "a girls' college preparatory high school".

I was unable to find a photo of the chapel through the doors after a brief search. It seems the administration has remodeled parts of the school in the ensuing years.

"The mirror on the back was actually angled."

"I think we tipped it up or down it was actually something I remember going to see a mansion in Newport, Rhode Island once where they said it was once considered impolite to have a mirror on the wall that reflected people, so they intentionally tipped them up to show the ceilings and stuff, and I always remembered that--and a common movie trick now."

"We were shooting I think wardrobe tests on this actor. We were shooting tests on the projection."

"The projection, yeah."

"And somebody walked in front of the projector with a white shirt and we looked at each other and said 'That's what the actor is gonna wear.'"

"And it's really just mathematical gibberish on that slide that's being projected on him, but the speech he's being, that he's giving, was written for us by one of the world-class mathematicians named Len Adleman at USC whom we gave the task of 'write a speech that only 15 people in the world will truly understand'. And he did. So all the dialogue that Professor Janek gives in this scene is actually stuff that's so smart that none of us have a clue what he's talking about."

"And here we have the great George Hearn, just before his Broadway-starring appearance in Sunset Boulevard. He's a wonderful actor, great musical, comedy, and dramatic actor, who had such a great time playing an expansive Russian diplomat. While we were shooting this movie the Soviet Union collapsed and consequently the business card that we had prepared for him which said, you know, 'Consular Official USSR' had to be redone ..."

(continued)

"... and we put in its place 'Commonwealth of Independent States' which is what they called the USSR for about a minute and a half before even that broke up."

Note: I've tried unsuccessfully to identify the logo on the business card 🤔 Anyone know what it is? It is not the main logo the Commonwealth adopted.

#CommonwealthOfIndependentStates

"It's also fun as writers to come up with a character that traditionally in movies would have been a villain: 'The Russian'. And now he actually turns out to be quite a sympathetic and lovely character."

"I like to think of SNEAKERS as the first post-Cold War film" 🤯

#Sneakers #ColdWar

"The woman who approaches Janek is Lee Garlington who has so far been in all 3 of my movies. She is sort of my good luck charm."

#LeeGarlington

"Yeah we went out onto a rooftop in West LA where we had the Sneakers van parked opposite the building where Janek's window is seen. And that's actually Dan Akroyd on the scaffolding out there with a shotgun mic."

"Didn't that van have to get taken up there by a crane or some complicated challenge like that?"

"Absolutely right. We had to crane the van up onto the roof. Because it wasn't actually I think a parking roof."

(continued)

"Right, and then we had to work the schedule around it because we needed the van really soon afterwards but it took a couple of days to get it all off or something."

"Right."

"This is one of those complicated scenes where John and I are on a rooftop across an alleyway from this office. The actors playing Janek and Rhyzkov are in an office and the only way to speak to them really is over a walkie-talkie, so it's actually sort of comp-- it's so difficult to really get the performance you want from somebody ..."

(continued)

and they were, they were wonderful but it would just--it would take too long for me to like go downstairs, walk into their building, take the elevator up, run into the set, and back again."

"And I remember we used a very long lens; it was very slow and this building--as most modern office buildings do--had very heavily-tinted glass so there's an incredible amount of light in that office..."

"It was hot."

"...to even see anything."

(continued)

"It's another reason I didn't run in there." (laughing)

"The actors were frying in there."

"It's a lovely piece of acting by Sidney here. Just this very subtle 'Let me see'. Always cracks me up when I see that." 🙂

"And one of my favorite accidents in the movie is what happens when the curtains are closed and it's something that we saw happen that they close the curtains and bumped up against them and it made this remarkable pattern that--I remember at the time that we all just laughed hysterically, we thought it was the funniest thing we'd ever seen."

"I think you didn't say cut for awhile because we just kept watching the blinds pulsating."

"We let the scene go on and on and on." (laughing)

"Walter Parkes, Larry Lasker, and I wrote this screenplay over the course of about 8 years. I think it was from about 1981 to '89 or so, and um, this was one of the scenes that we spent a lot of time getting right and it was one of the most fun scenes to write because it's all about the repetition of the sound--"I leave message here on service"--that the audience isn't supposed to be concentrating on. The idea is to give them visual things to be looking at, and other concepts ...."

(continued)

"... to be thinking about while they're hearing this other thing over and over and over again, not realizing that that's the clue to what the, where the box is. And it takes the blind guy, Whistler, who can only hear these things to discern that that's the clue."
"And this little bit of dialogue about the faking the Apollo moon landing at Norton Air Force Base was just a little reference to that's where I was stationed when I was in the Air Force making training films, and they did in fact have huge sound stages, but to the best of my knowledge they did not fake the Apollo moon landing there. They faked the landing on Mars there." (laughs)
"This was a fun scene to shoot. It was in an office building in Westwood, because you could just say to the actors, just go for it. Just drive this guy crazy. I also love the idea that in a high tech security environment that if you just say 'Push the goddamn buzzer' somebody will push the goddamn buzzer."
"And again in keeping with the theme that these are low-tech guys in a high-tech world, I love the solution that Bishop comes up with for how to open this lock. All through this sequence when we're shooting Bob, David Strathairn and Sidney Poitier--even though they were not on camera that day--came to the set and were in the next room with little radio microphones feeding him his lines. Very generous."

"That little shot there I remember being a horror show because this van interior was...existed as a set but in that shot you see three of the walls."

"Right"

"And it's sort of working in a submarine, trying to figure out how to get the camera in there with the actors because it's only a few feet wide, the available walking space."

"How did you?"

"I don't remember now how we did that thing, I just remember it took forever. I don't know if we flew a wall or if we just had a little sled dolly."

"And if you look on the office building roof across the street you'll see the van. It was very expensive to get that up there. We want you all to see it." (laughs)

"And I think it's up on blocks because that wall actually blocked most of it, so it had to be raised."

"Right"

"I remember people coming to you and showing you chip design options for quite a while and I don't remember the rejects very well."

"Rejects didn't look very special and finally Ken Pepiot designed this one which was sort of silver-plated and really beautiful and really stood out."

Note: Ken Pepiot is credited as special effects coordinator.

"This was great fun to shoot because Lee is a very talented actress and a wonderful comedian and I think they both had a lot of fun in doing it. I love Bob's reactions. We all too easily forget what a talented comedian he is too."
"The photograph on the door over Bob's left shoulder is a picture called 'Einstein on a Bicycle' and the art department chose that because they thought that is something that a scientist like Janek would have on his wall. Turns out it's copyrighted and we had to actually give credit in the end of the film to the copyright holder of that photograph."

"And now Bob pours on the charm."

"I don't think any audience in any movie theatre ever heard Bob's line, 'Give him ... help.'" (laughs)

"The laughter kind of covered up the next ten seconds."

"We struggled to get the van in this shot, as I recall. We had to get very low."

"Yeah, which we tried to avoid generally."

"Right"

"And this was great fun. We were shooting a party sequence and realized we didn't have any party. We had a lot of people talking. So very late one night, I think I said to you, 'Pick a spot where I can just put them and we'll jump-cut them dancing with each other', and you sort of lit a little area and we told everybody without any advance warning you're going to dance and they all danced differently."

(Continued...)

"David Strathairn came up with this dance that looks like somebody had never seen dancing. And River went wild, and Dan had this great classic Rock and Roll, and Mary had a blast."
"This conspiracy theory about the cow lips is actually one of Dan's. That was not originally in the script. He brought that to us. And to this day swears it's true."
"Now if you listen carefully in the background the music we're playing here which is from the album Super Session is the same album that we took the music...it's actually the same music from the opening of the film because we wanted to refer back to the college sequence as he's talking about that sequence."
"This whole idea of 'What are you going to do with your share of the money?' came about because in the original screenplay just ended with them getting the chip and throwing it away. And a friend read the script and she said, 'You know, at the end of the movie they save the world but somehow it's not enough. We want to see how it affects them personally.' So Walter, Larry, and I came up with this little scene here, in which everybody just--very fancifully--talks about what they..." (continued)
"...they would do with the money if they ever get it all. And then we were able to sort of payoff that setup at the end of the movie."

"This is one of those scenes where the set and the size of the cast made it take a longer than everybody thought. You know I was thinking on paper it's just a few pages, or....

- RIght.

And then when you actually start dealing with this many people in a scene and that big a space it's...

- It takes forever to light it.

Forever, yeah.

And coverage, you know, every time somebody's talking you've got to get all these reaction shots of the others."

"As I recall it was scheduled for about 4 days and it took nine.

- Yeah

And the way that we reported to the studio was after you finished a sequence you reported whether you were on schedule or off and we didn't have to report until the end of that nine days that we had just gone five days over so the executives went to bed that night thinking we were on schedule and when they woke up the next morning we were five days over schedule. That got their attention."

"We went five days over without even shooting...." (laughs)

"Another part of the set that I really loved was those glass bricks. You were able to put that blue light behind it.

- Yeah. They were pretty spot."

"Now I'll tell you something about SETEC Astronomy. When we were writing this sequence, I remember it was my assignment to go home that afternoon and write this sequence, and I wanted to come up with an anagram that would spell out the words 'No More Secrets'. That's what I wanted it to spell out. And I took out a Scrabble set--this was in the early 80's, there were no anagram programs for personal computers."
"I took out my Scrabble set and I spend all afternoon trying to get words out of 'No More Secrets'. And I couldn't come up with anything that was interesting, but I figured out at one point, 'Gee if I had a 'Y' in there I could get Astronomy.' And so I thought maybe I'll...OK, 'Too Many Secrets' And then I started trying to come up with anagrams for 'Too Many Secrets'. It came out to SETEC Astronomy which didn't mean anything obviously. And then I tried other words and I came ...." (continued)"
"...up with 'Socrates Note', I thought that was kind of cool, and 'Monterey Coast' which I liked, and my favorite, 'Cootys Rat Semen'"
"I also recall when we shot the scene we did one shot of the tiles the Scrabble tiles spelling out something rude about studio executives and we put that in the dailies just to see if anybody was watching and we never heard from them, so we have to assume they were just waiting for the premiere." (laughs)
"I love this shot of David Strathairn"

"We're coming up to a shot now, the shot in which the computer graphics are reflected off of David's dark sunglasses, was an incredibly difficult shot to get. And as I recall we tried it once, we hired a company that said, 'Oh yeah, we know how to do this.' And they--what did they do? They took down the back wall of the set and ....

- It was done as a projection and they took the material we wanted reflected and they projected it and we kept saying 'It looks awfully dark.' (continued)

"And they said, 'No, this is gonna work great.' And then we went to the dailies and the reflection was too dark, you couldn't read it at all. So then we came back and we just put it on two really big monitors and reflected one monitor in each side of his eyeglasses and that, the low-technology version was better than the high-tech version.

- I seem to recall we spent about a half day on the high-tech version, with no results."

"Now in the takes that we use where you see things reflected in David's glasses, those glasses were so blacked-out that he couldn't see from them. So I had to be poking his leg to tell him when to react to the changes in the monitors. Because he literally couldn't see what was in front of him."

"He's a really accommodating actor I think and really interested in every part of how the movie is made and ....

- Right

- And was always enthusiastic about any technical request that we had done.

- Right

- What Phil?

- Before we started shooting he actually spent some time at a school for the blind and tried to pick up as much as he could about what it's like to be blind and then when we were shooting in this set in the Lair in-between takes you would see..." (continued)

"... David walking from one point of the set to another with his eyes closed. And when he had that walk down he would then pick a different route and master that one with his eyes closed. So that he could literally get around that set without seeing just as Whistler would have been able to. It's a real attention to subtlety that's part of why he's such a wonderful actor.""
"The braille readout is actually a real braille readout. I think they're a little more sophisticated now but at the time we shot the movie that is one of the ways that blind people were able to use computers."
"We also spent a lot of time with our computer people making sure that what shows up on the computer monitors looks like something that could actually show up on a computer monitor. It was all of our fears that like a lot of movies you'll see something on a screen that anybody who uses a personal computer would say, 'Well, that's not what it really looks like.' And so consequently our graphics were a little bit smaller, print was a little bit more difficult to read than ... (continued)"
"...what you usually see in movies but what we usually see in movies frankly looks pretty phony."

"While we were shooting the film, Universal was bought by the Matsushita Corporation of Japan and we did get some inquiries as to why we were showing GoldStar monitors which is a Korean company. I seem to recall ducking that question. (laughs)

We were instructed, however, not to show any Sony monitors because Sony had just bought Columbia Studios."

"Now we had this thing that we did on this film a lot that we call "the power pan". You want to describe that?

- It's a way to get energy into a shot instantly by using a long lens on somebody when they're walking quickly across a big open space like the loft and the Lair really lent itself to that, to power panning, because there was so much room for people to walk through. And it just immediately sort of amped things up a little bit to use like at least a 100mm lens on ... (continued)