RedditsuxTrump Says He’s Sending Troops To ‘War Ravaged’ America City — Authorizes ‘Full Force’
Another inch forward and we all stupidly pretend this means nothing.
I said this is the other thread, but what is the appropriate response? He’s clearly setting the board, and he definitely wants to shoot protesters. He very likely wants sufficient violence to do something dramatic. They even may try to instigate, but have thus far been unable to get the desired response to enable martial law or whatever they plan.
So you have three options:
Which of these three do you propose?
See, there’s a fourth option: The people with the power need to take action and I don’t mean a “strongly worded letter.” I’m talking about the leaders with the knowledge and the levers to move this along.
If they don’t the inevitability is that No Kings becomes more than the nice picnic it currently is for citizens.
Me? I’m a citizen just like you. I have no power unless you and I become a team.
Update: I watched the full video of what he said and now I really do believe he’s just genuinely that stupid and thinks he’s actually trying to put down a riot. Fox News really plays him like a fiddle.
Portlanders are pretty sarcastic and many people have posted videos of “life in hell” (his audio) set against a beautiful Pacific Northwest summer with boats and farmer’s markets.
I dunno, I’m inclined to think mockery in this case might be the best response for the time being. We’ll see how next month’s protest goes, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it were entirely peaceful.
You left out the General Strike response
That would fall under non violent
Eh, it can be either
Just another distraction from the Epstein files.
/s
AlmaccaI tell ya, this is all just a prelude to cancelling elections.
It does start to look like another step on the journey to the land of “you won’t need to vote”
Weed out politic nay-sayers directly… we’re already seeing some of that going on.
Then make being a member of the armed-forces ideologically untenable for those who aren’t worshipping orange. Trumps actions must be impacting the national-pride aspect of serving for some (and changing the political disposition at the recruiting office).
If this is effective, in three years, maybe you’ll have a military significantly dominated by active supporters (or at least fence-sitters)… Now that opens up some options.
make being a member of the armed-forces ideologically untenable for those who aren’t worshipping orange
Hegseth was talking about using Kirk’s murder for recruitment.
Snot FlickermanExcept you will actually lose a significant number of your military force to do that. Who is going to replace the ones who leave? The majority of MAGA die-hards aren’t actually physically fit enough or able to stop using meth long enough to actually cut it in the military. To keep troop levels what they’re at (which is definitely not enough to wrangle the whole nation) they’d have to drastically reduce physical fitness and drug abuse standards.
Germany took Europe with about 18 million soldiers throughout the entire war, and Europe had about 540 million citizens overall before World War 2. US has around just over 2 million soldiers (with only 10% in “boots on the ground” combat roles) with about 350 million citizens, all of which are far more spread out over the US than they were in Europe.
The ability for the US military to occupy and hold it’s own nation is absurdly low, honestly, imho.
Evidence to support my assertion: military.com/…/new-pentagon-study-shows-77-of-you…
Pentagon study from 2020: “A new study from the Pentagon shows that 77% of young Americans would not qualify for military service without a waiver due to being overweight, using drugs or having mental and physical health problems.”
That’s why they have a sudden tick tock deal. Control the largest source of youth propaganda, and if you delay elections long enough, you may get the 16 year old Nazi army you want
It probably won’t work
That is the scariest part of this to me. There are some chronicly online young people, that were well below voting age during covid, and are now just detached from reality due to the propaganda. When I talk to people my age (40’s), at least we have a common experience of the world before Obama even. Not so with some folks now. Its terrifying.
I really hope someone that doesn’t live in the US, Russia, or China start a TikTok rival for people to switch to.
And let them do meth in the army anyway. That’s what happened in Germany too.
The Nazis didn’t have anything like the arsenal available to the U.S. military, and they were fighting a fully equipped and trained, modern (for the time) fighting force - arguably the world’s supper power at the time.
In your scenario, the U.S. military would fight guys with semi-automatic weapons. They would have laser guided bombs, tanks, tear gas, the full works. Im sorry, but the armed militia won’t stand a chance.
All the major cities are majority Democrat. All the major industries run business out of the major cities.
As much as the wealthy are short term thinkers, do you really think they’d be okay with tanks and guided bombs absolutely wrecking their cities and making it impossible for their laborers to get to their dayjobs?
Tanks in the streets don’t usually make people feel safe enough to leave their homes. Indiscriminate bombing doesn’t either. Having your city bombed to smithereens ain’t good for business.
You’re forgetting that they would be occupying the US itself, and in throwing down like that would absolutely terminally wreck what is left of the real economy. If bombing your own major economic centers to hell and back is “holding your country militarily” then you’ve made a huge tactical error.
That is an unrealistic assertion.
1: Soldiers are not machines. They have opinions and loyalties. Many US troops won’t want to kill Americans, especially ones from their own neck of the woods. California has a major share of these people, and Trump isn’t likely to convince enough of them to get California’s assets.
2: All the fancy gear has complicated supply chains, and would be quickly exhausted in a civil war. This is particular bad for the Conservatives, since Trump has tried his best to alienate potential trading partners.
3: The low standards of ICE makes it easy to infiltrate. This means that saboteurs, foreign and domestic, can easily access Conservative territories and engage in operations without being caught.
4: The United States are huge. There is simply too much territory for any military to cover. It would be a long and grinding war.
5: Canada, Mexico, and other nations would likely send soldiers and material to aid in conquering the Trump Regime. The reasons will vary, from annexing American territory, earning favors, revenge, or simply to obtain a reliable partner on the world stage. Trump has burned many bridges, and is known to be an untrustworthy character who won’t uphold agreements.
6: The Trump Regime does not value experts, and will suffer in nearly every aspect. The only thing they got going for them, is raw aggression and the inability to understand consequences. This makes them similar to a rhino, minus the power to back the unthinking rage.
Every war the US has entered within the last 60 years disagrees.
Fucking brutal burn.
Setting aside a probable civil war, I think balkanization would be the most likely split of the American militaries. Most of them would simply align with their home states. The US is a continent, so we would get several different blocs, if there is no clean split between Antifa and Fascist.
Incidentally, Hegseth is requiring all US military generals to meet with him in person next week.
WhatsHerBucketThey won’t be cancelled, that would be unconstitutional.
Instead, ICE will be posted at polling places and intimidate people not to vote.
Trump doesn’t give a single fuck about the constitution.
No, but he literally does not control elections, as they’re run at the state level. It’s why he’s going for more work-around ideas like working to villainize things like vote-by-mail. It’s the same play as it ever has been for Republicans, make it harder to vote so only the rich who support them can actually make it out to vote. Make it increasingly difficult for the lower classes to have their voices heard. The dumb yokels may be the loudest Trump supporters but one of the biggest blocs of Trump voters were business owners and other relatively wealthy citizens.
That’s why MAGAs have been making a concerted effort to systematically take over elections boards etc.
Yeah it’s way more likely ICE will be used to occupy cities in general. For one, they don’t have the same rigorous health standards that the military does, and for two, they just massively ballooned the budget of ICE for the specific purpose of recruitment. A lot easier to get dumb easily controlled thugs that way then trying to get the military deeply involved. The military being sent out is just Trump trying to pretend he’s swinging his big dick around when it actually shows how weak he must be to be doing it.
This is the obvious way to so it, no new power and you get to have elections you cam trick liberals into believing they’re forced by philosophical principals to honor
Apparently during the American occupation of Haiti, the occupation government wanted to pass a new, wildly unpopular constitution via a referendum. To do this (and ostensibly to get around most of the population being illiterate) they implemented the following system: In the polling station there would be two cards, a white card and a black card, meaning yes and no respectively. The white cards were already on the table, but you had to ask for the black card. From the US marine standing guard to "keep order." The new constitution passed.
He is trying to incite a civil war. Russian psyops are working with him on this.
Even if it isn’t, responding as if it is won’t be a terrible thing I do. Do what you can to resist this in your daily life.
Any excuse to declare martial law.
Anyone want to bet he says Martian law?
Scribbling out a square on my bingo card and adding Martian Law.
Double credit if he tweets it.
SkunkWorkzOr Maritime law
Why would they want to change anything about elections when they are already rigged as fuck and a binary option between 2 parties that circle in power every few years?
To me it looks like they are doing what every authoritarian government does when people start protesting
aceshighElections are a distraction to him trying to take over the world. He’s like pinky and the brain, except brain is missing.
dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️What war?
“Don’t worry, we brought it with us in our luggage.”
So war against ourselves it seems.
America First? Wait … America you better finally win one of these, I have no interest in my country being 2 through 100 and whatever …
War ravaged? Is this part of his delusions?
Yep. The fascist party propaganda machines have been reporting that Seattle and Portland are literal war zones for years now. I live in Seattle, and when I travel to the South or the Midwest, I always get the “ohh I’m so sorry” concerned comments from people when they learn where I’m from. So many people think that the cities literally burned down entirely.
You should ask “who’s telling you this?” The follow-up is “you should ask yourself ‘why are they lying to me?’”
jballsMinneapolis as well. We drive up to northern Minnesota to see family every year and I usually stop for gas and lunch in Minneapolis. Our family up there thinks we’re insane. They’re like “you stop in MINNEAPOLIS?!? are you all ok?”
I see this online about Seattle all the time. (Plus hyperbole about the fent/homeless prob) People will be ranting about how awful Seattle is and how you can’t go anywhere near it and I’m like “Really, I was there last month and had a lovely afternoon”
I visited Columbus, Ohio for a week last month and witnessed more homeless and drug issues than I have in Seattle in the past five years. It’s always projection, isn’t it?
Ask them why they believe mainstream media. Then watch them get an aneurysm.
CharlesDarwinI’d see certain commenters repeating that last sentence as just something that was an assumed truth.
Every single time I saw them doing it, I’d ask the usual suspects to show me exactly which cities “burned to the ground”. These same people would basically scamper off, providing no evidence, only to make the same claims again in a few hours/days.
Oh yeah, they think BLM burned cities to the ground and there’s riots everyday and fentanyl heads on every block, broken up with the occasional roving trans kidnapping gangs.
bampopTo be war ravaged, it must be at war. Trump is literally declaring war on US citizens. And also instructing the armed forces to kill US citizens, unless you think “full force” could possibly mean anything else in military context.
It’s amazing how people can look at stuff like this and say “gee this guy sure does use some hyperbolic language, I wonder what he can mean by that”. It’s pretty fucking clear.
I’m a PATRIOT and I Voted for Trump because I Wanted to go to WAR With AMERICA!
I know it’s a joke, but some of them think they’re doing exactly that. The propaganda machine has them convinced that they’re the real Americans and everybody left of them (which is basically everybody but other MAGA) are anti-American, Antifa, terrorist, communists.
Well those (urbans) really had it comin’!
BlueÆtherWhen can we start to enact economic sanctions against the US, any smaller state and there would have been repercussions for either the leadership or the country in general.
I think the better solution is to remove those agents from the state. I’d prefer it be from existence, but will settle for geographical relocation.
To get the Trump/Epstein files?
pelespiritI still don’t know if trump realizes how Hitler died.
Didn't it take the Allies marching on Berlin for that to happen? Why would Trump have to worry about that?