People with ADHD may have an underappreciated advantage: Hypercuriosity
People with ADHD may have an underappreciated advantage: Hypercuriosity
“And she often obsessed over random projects before abruptly abandoning them.”
Preach.
Funnily enough, I somehow stumbled my way to sergeant, also graduating primus of my class in the NCO school, by actively breaking the unwritten assumptions and “traditions” (habitually, not intentionally) and was consistently rated the most competent and, I think this is the more important aspect, liked / respected by both those below and those above me, out of my entire company. Only segment I consistently got somewhat worse ratings was peers, I.e other NCOs, especially on the respect part (they too did concede the competence despite all) which kind of makes sense, since I wouldn’t do all the yelling or excessive barrack rule hawking or whatever, which, all of it basically, always seemed counterproductive to me. I made sure my squad would present cleanly and know their shit, just by being there with them, doing just that. It’s easier to just go along with someone else, when they go first, than listening to someone not doing said thing tell you to do the thing without them themselves doing it. But I digress.
Just my anecdote about the cliche of “don’t think” attitude in army. It works, perhaps that’s why it is a thing, but I would suggest that it might not be the only thing that works, and, maybe some other paradigms would work much better, if only given chance.
And the more immediate thing I wanted to convey: Not everyone in the army (depends on your country of course though) is the same, and there were, back then during my time, and almost certainly now too, different people doing different things. Especially when you go down to squad level and NCOs, there’s a lot of room for variety in ways to do things and handle stuff.
The twist? I was unmedicated the entire time, too. No diagnosis, though everyone above joked about it all the time because I would stay up late into night just obsessing on some equipment inventory or whatever reports, often just voluntarily doing platoon level stuff too, when the second lieutenants would be too lazy to do them in the first place, or I didn’t like the way they omitted a lot of important stuff in the reports they’d almost always run by me (yeah my hyperfocus and excessive energy was very much abused and I did burn out pretty bad just before I left for reserves). With medication? I think I might have just been one of the other NCOs, telling the guys not to think, and treat them as people not capable of thinking. No way to know now, but, I left my active service with best grades and ratings of my company both from below and above (but still not peers…), so I would claim that perhaps we’d do well to give more chance for new ideas and neurountypical flavor on things.
But I should also add that I never went on tour or anything. Our country only has defense forces, so active service meant mainly education and training, both myself but mostly for those just doing the service without stripes. Not sure how this would’ve fared in an actual stressful situation and environment.
But I will say, I was extremely good in chaotic situations, which seems is a common thing with adhd peeps in general. It was very easy for me to take control of a chaotic or messy situation that, like always, went somehow to shit and required improvisation. Perhaps because I would just act, and have a lot of ideas about what to do next, pretty much at all times. I didn’t really stop to think, which of course could’ve lead to some better choices, but I found, same as those above apparently, it’s better to make a choice and act fast on your feet, than to make the best choice but having to stop and think.
But this became a weird tangent. Sorry about that. Point is, “don’t think” is not the only way these things work. Sometimes “think too much and constantly” is just as good, if not better, when coupled with the adhd parallelism of action and thought.
Funny thing is, this has helped me enormously in my career. Everyone else is simply trudging along on assumptions and I swoop in with a dozen edge cases that we simply aren’t handling.
Schooling beats a specific kind of “curiosity” into you, while beating out a much more general “what if this assumption isn’t the case.”
Monkey-see, monkey-do is a powerful survival skill. For neurotypical people, it’s easy to just reproduce learned behaviors, without the reasoning behind them. I find interesting parallels with generative AI. You see it a lot in creative pursuits especially. So many people totally miss subtext. I think you also see it a lot while driving.
And it’s largely an education problem. There’s no reason neurotypicals can’t think critically, but it’s much easier to teach them to just slot into a role without any real understanding (Religion is very good at this). I think that’s also the reason conventional education can be so difficult for people that aren’t neurotypical. It’s meant to teach you what to do, not why
I definitely find myself to be at an advantage compared to most neurotypical people I have worked with. In aggregate though, the ease they have moving with the flow can end up being more of an advantage in the long term, especially in largely neurotypical spaces. It can be very frustrating
In a perfect world a good government would be heavily regulating social media to prevent disinformation.
I continue to say when I was a kid you could all go to the local bar and there was Dale drunk going on about his insane shit and we could all ignore it. Now Dale is online with all the other Dales and they’re crazy but they’re not dumb and they found out how to weaponize their insanity.
Sigh.
Best we can do is educate our kids my daughter has friends who have anti-vax parents. Mine are not and I do my best to educate other kids when here. I don’t undercut their parents. I simply try to provide them with the facts and the hope is, the long game they will get smart.
“When you look at the way people with ADHD learn, and especially if they are hypercurious, they start reading something and they’re like, ‘Ooh what is that? I want to learn about this. What is that? Does it connect to that?’ It looks a lot more like a messy mind map rather than a straight [line],” Le Cunff says. “The problem is when there’s no space for exploration.”
I cannot express to you how much this captures my experience reading. It can sometimes take days for me to get past a page when I’m constantly stopping to look up other things a passage made me think of or write down ideas and questions.
I feel this too when I play video games. I like to open every box, go through every door, listen to all the recordings etc. When I play coop with my husband it drives him a bit nuts when he wants to focus on a specific quest and I’m exploring.
I am right there with you in games. I’ve been playing Enshrouded with my partner and some friends recently, and we’ve gotten into arguments on continuing the quest, versus exploring, versus building lol
It’s very interesting to me to see how other people can just walk past something without looking into it, or, even more foreign to me, remember it, and come back later. I, personally, have to completely explore an area outright the first time, because I know I will not be interested in going back through it in the future
The fact remains.
FYI, many modern idioms are bullshit shadows of their original phrasing, (eg. “Blood is thicker…”, “Great minds…”, “Birds of a feather…”, etc.) and arguing that they’re fine as-is smacks more of anti-intellectualism (if not outright laziness) than anything meaningful. 🙇🏼♂️
Just because the horizon exists doesn’t mean every path toward it is equal in value. Logical fallacy aside, you seem to agree that improvement as a species is a worthy goal, and maybe even a personal obligation to promote such.
Language works a lot of ways. Don’t let laziness and cognitive ambivalence hold the reins of linguistic morphology.
But also, since you’ve been so pleasant and asked so nicely,
A single molecule of water is not wet but as soon as more than one molecule is present the water is then wet. If there are a substantial number of molecules, then you have the substances that we know as water and ice.
The molecules themselves also are not solid or liquid, that has to do with the behavior of the molecules in dimensional space. At the level of everyday language, we are talking about substances, and generally when we refer to water we are talking about it as a liquid substance.
Most liquid substances you could easily mix with water are themselves water-based and therefore would be totally dried up into a powder or perhaps a jelly without their water content. To add water is to make them wet, and then they exist as a wet incorporated substance. In fact, they could not dry up if they were not wet in the first place; to become dry is to transition away from the state of being wet.
You know what else dries up? Water.
While that's true, there are common objectives that benefit the whole: food, shelter, health, art, and of course rest and recreation. The ability to prioritize and stick to a plan is challenging, for everyone. Who wouldn't rather be doing something fun?
There's a balance there somewhere. I often ignore it at my own peril.
“Dampening such impulsive behavior so that the child can focus and succeed makes intuitive sense. But what if dampening the child’s impulsivity also dampens curiosity?”
Perfectly explains my struggle with learning physics in school and it quickly becoming a hobby of mine when i stopped being medicated when i no longer went to school.