Rusty CorgiOkay Fedi, what's your chronically online hot take? 
🏳️⚧️Pastel The Skunk🏳️⚧️@Rusty dunno if its a chronically online hot take but I know its gonna make a lot of people angry but what the heck. Not every countries police is as bad as the US's and the fact that people treat it that way is pretty annoying and a continuation of the whole line of thinking of "everything everywhere is just like america" that I've seen quite a few americans believe over the years.
@PastelFurry I'm not familiar with how Swedish police operate so I can't really speak to it, but I can say that I think police being decent is an exception and not the norm globally. I also would hazard that, while yes the police may be okay now, they would quickly become the tool of the oppressor if Sweden ever somehow fall to fascism. It's not that police are all universally bad, it's just that they hold a very abusable position, and it's worth asking ourselves if that position is worth the potential trade-offs of their existence. It's also worth mentioning that Swedish pulled race-related information out of statistical metrics for policing, so if there is institutional bias it'd be very hard to track.
Mewish Artist@Rusty @PastelFurry I LOVE this take honestly. ACAB can come off as "All police officers everywhere are absolutely horrible people!!!" which can be easily falsified if just one police officer is an actually pretty nice guy that just tries to help people out, rather than abuse power. People can also easily respond back with "Well... MY officer in my town wasn't a bastard to me. He was a chill guy"
On contrast, ACHAP - All Cops Hold Abusable Power, is a much more nuetral and, imo, useful way to look at systematic problems in the police force. It also has much more stable grounds to not be so easily falsified, despite having "All". (which usually makes a lot of statements easily falsifiable).
@MewishBab @PastelFurry I dunno if the goal of a good slogan to rally behind is supposed to be that it isn't falsifiable. A lot of times it's just meant to be provocative to spark engagement with the movement. 
And also ACHAP is waaayyy too passive for how many policing alternatives and reforms we need to be investing in.
And also ACHAP is waaayyy too passive for how many policing alternatives and reforms we need to be investing in.@Rusty @PastelFurry ACHAP may be too passive, but it is more specific about WHAT alternatives/reforms would be needed.
When I see ACAB, I just think "WHAT kinda reforms are you even wanting?? It just sounds like you are jobist against law enforcement in general". Which I know know isn't the case. But the first impression isn't all that great.
Meanwhile with ACHAP, I think "Ohhhhh! Interesting. I haven't thought about that before. I immediately wanna back you up and reform laws so that police officers don't abuse their power"
I dunno if this is my Autism or not, but I have a higher chance of rallying for Acronyms that are descriptive in their goals, rather than Acronyms that are provocative. This is because I can actually understand their viewpoint immediately from the acronym, rather doing guesswork.