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DaveGoing through this right now, when a system update broke the game I was playing and the only support channel for my distro is Discord (so far, no one has replied to me on discord đ)
cepelinasWhich distro?
Itâs Nobara, a Fedora derivative. Iâve used it for probably 3 years now, with some brief hops to other distros in the middle, and itâs always been great. Really itâs just Fedora with gaming related stuff preinstalled to make it effortless.
I actually made a post here, but I think I solved the controller problem and the game is still crashing (even without the controller connected, but the system no longer crashes) so maybe I should make a new post.
jawa22If this is the case, move important stuff to a physical backup and get out of that distro yesterday.
I wish more distros followed Archâs footsteps and built comprehensive Wikis
infinitesunriseEveryone told me that Arch was hard so I avoided it for years. They were wrong, the wiki makes Arch a lot easier than most other popular distros. No wading through bulletin board archeology, decaying reddit threads, or half-relevant stack exchange questions.
I mean, most of the time, the Arch Wiki is just as useful on other distros, tooâŚ
It really is! Iâve used it to troubleshoot Debian issues too!
The only people who say arch is hard or breaks randomly havenât fucking used it in ten years.
It breaks less then Ubuntu and has easier documentation thatâs more up to date. And an actual community EVERYWHERE to ask questions to.
I just want an api documentation, please đŤ
swagger is fine too if you donât got anything else. please anything but the discord docs
This but also for Reddit.
katy â¨love companies that have no support forum or email but instead ask you to go to the reddit community.
Why did this become a thing? Donât they get sick of answering the same question every day?
The annoying thing is they wonât allow you ask the fucking questions. They just remove your comment and say check the sticky.
I hate them
Dumb kids that donât know any better, basically.
Even better when itâs inside of a voice channels chat rooms sticky. So itâs hidden three fucking layers deep ina. Feature no one even realizes exists.
The âtheyâ that make the decision not to invest in proper documentation are not the âtheyâ who will have to answer the same question over and over⌠thatâs somebody elseâs problem.
But thatâs why forums exist. My guess is they just want to mine more data to sell.
What extra data would they get from Discord over a forum?
In my experience, itâs usually smaller projects that do this. Iâm guessing itâs just easier/cheaper for them to throw it on discord than setup a proper forum/wiki, because thatâs the platform theyâre already familiar with
#1 reason I hate it is the fact itâs not globally searchable. That and the fact Discord search isnât great is probably why theyâre answering the same questions over and over
Yeah lack of search engine indexing is why Iâve avoided discord. But now that the search engines are dying and slopifying, Iâm not sure it really matters.
I agree with the point, but thats not how that meme format works.
âCan a robot write a symphony? Can a robot turn a⌠canvas into a beautiful masterpiece?â
âCan you?â
⌠[stunned expression]
Thats the original text, so this is really not the right format.
maria [she/her]i should⌠prolli watch irobotâŚ
Honestly you could make an argument against my previous comment saying that the clanker in the original saying âcan you?â is just a dumb LLM repeating snarky reddit comments from its training data. Then the accurate reaction would really be âomg what a fucking dumb piece of trashâ. In the movie this robot was actually truly intelligent tho iirc. Been a long time since i watched it.
u thibk it was gud? (didn watch it yet)
It was entertaining enough for my tastes. I wouldnt call it good, but i just generally dont call action movies good.
PoikThe book was better, and completely unrelated. The movie is fun, but kind of a dumb action flick. It ignores most of the nuance Asimov would have had to make a movie you donât have to think about. Thereâs nothing wrong with that, I just donât prefer that, unless itâs what I signed up for, like with John Wick or something else obviously just action.
Of course it was intelligent; it was Alan Tudyk.
it was my favorite movie when i was a kid!
Better to read the short story collection itâs allegedly based on. Yet another case of a movie studio paying for the rights to something beloved so that they can slap the title on something generic and unrelated.
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At least NexusMods has a forum though.
FlamekebabâJoin our Discord"
Ugh. Why. I donât want to hang out in your chatroom.
Ugh. Why. I donât want to hang out in your chatroom.
joshchandraDiscord has such a ridiculous, unfriendly layout, too; almost any other platform has a better UIâŚ
I think this is double sided
Yes it is unfriendly but do you remember how it was pre discord? Communities built around vent and teamspeak?
Discord is a step up from that but it needs to remain a community hub, not a full repository of information. âVisit our websiteâ on the main page is necessary most of the time.
Also discord has forum posts. These are awful and you can only have like 200 active posts or some rudimentary and small count which means you cant really use it as a forum (let alone the unintuitive layout of them)
I donât use it for gaming, but for backing up a social club that does IRL events, and Iâll say Discord is the worst thing ever until you consider the alternatives.
WhatsApp was ok but the featureset just wasnât good enough. I sure do hope Discord gets their shit together but they donât seem motivated to improve it.
Iâve never used Vent nor Teamspeak, either. I just donât get why Redditâs/Lemmyâs excellent threading canât be followed more closely. I understand that IMs fire rapidly and can bury threads up above, but the current format is just too unwieldy for mass discussion.
Actually, itâs the lack of E2E that I dislike the most. There doesnât seem to be any easy way to solve real-time child comments, but at least Matrix is E2E. Revolt, while not E2E (and lacking video-streaming), can at least be self-hosted as well. Where Discord excels insanely is in its live screen-sharing; nothing comes close except maybe Google Meet and Zoom.
Communities before discord were forums. No fucking community was built around teamspeak or vent. They had them, but they were built around forums or the in game systems of various MMOs.
MMOs use to be actual glorified IRC and chat rooms that just happened to have a game attached. That was the entire point.
Forums were the bread and butter, thatâs were you got the voice coms info.
At best you have tiny friend groups that only hung out in a voice coms. But the actual community was NOT ts3 or vent
Iâve recently started using Discord more to play with friends and my god, the UI is so awful.
Even as someone that likes and uses Discord, I donât want to join their Discord. Itâs so much harder to find answers than just using a search engine, and if itâs something Iâm using for work, then I have to create a new account and everything
Unless it is something that I really need, and I canât find an alternative for, the phrase âjoin our discord for support and updatesâ is a sure sign that I will not, in fact, be using that product.
me: you got instructions on how to do this?
google: best i can do is a 20 minute youtube video with no timestamps or a reddit post to a post answered with a deleted post take your pick
festntyeah we need more wikihow articles on everything
All knowledge that only exists on discord will be lost
xvertigoxYup, having to join each server to access information means we (I presume) wonât be able to archive it via ArchiveTeam Warrior.
Within minutes.
Is there no open alternative to it? Like old school forums but with a more modern ui and voice chats, and ideally indexed from the wider web.
It could be an interesting addition to the fedi verse
XylightâŽNodeBB is a modern forum that i believe is activitypub enabled unless iâm thinking of something else
I joined a discord of a very popular app recently. I do not know why devs like this in any way. If I was them Iâd burn it down after the first day. The only thing in the discord is people posting the same few problems over and over and over. It so bad they not only have one bot but 3 that respond with it looks. Like your questing has been asked before please look here⌠With likes to people asking the same question but with no answer because its some AI trying to help. Even when you try to help someone and reply back with a correct answer you get spammed by these 3 bots. I had to block the 3 bots before I could do anything pertaining to conversation with someone. Why do we live like thisâŚ
A well documented FAQ on a forum would be so much more helpful than this discord garbage. I am someone who does read the fucking manual. But when your manual is a link to discord you deserve to be spamed with the same question 10000âed times.
But thatâs not cool like AI running in a container in a flatpack in a VM on the cloud in a Docker giving you useless information!
All I read was AI so I know itâs good
/s
Do you have a website?
We have a Facebook.
I agree that Discord sucks for support, but in defense of companies and projects that use it (like my own), itâs free and it works.
It would be awesome to have some alternative, built on open source software, provided freely to all projects and companies, that a majority of users are willing to join, but that just doesnât exist. Not at the scale that itâs going to see widespread adoption any time soon.
I will have a party the day it happens though, because even though I use Discord to provide support for two of my projects, I hate it. Iâm just not willing to throw around more hosting resources and dedicate more time to run a support forum myself that 90% of my users wouldnât be willing to sign up for anyway.
Maybe Iâm a minority and if it works for you all the power to you. Though I would almost prefer a forum site. Bring back the old days of some forum hosted on a random website. Not some walled garden like Facebook or reddit or discord. I think bb board or something like that is still around or somewhere thing like it. Drop in forum templet for a web site. I donât think it would really be that much bandwidth to host something like that.
Anyway I miss the days of signing up for random forums on the internet.
arenât the usual project hosting/issue/bug trackers thingies like github and forgejo free?
Yeah, and I use those too, but theyâre not good for ad-hoc discussions.
My favorite is when youâre interested in downloading a mod or fan game and the only place it exists is as a link to a google drive on discord.
Holy shit, learn how to use technology please.
I think itâs because if itâs on a site, itâs going to get taken down quick, especially if itâs even adjacent to Nintendo. Hosting rom hacks, fan games, etc on their own sites is stupid AF. Itâs how all the other idiots keep getting in trouble.
Goes double for roms in general. Large torrents are 1000x better than rom sites.
God I fucking hate discord as a centralized place for anything open source. Seriously anything else. Itâs just such a bad place to dissiminate information.