So @sotolf reminded me of something I kind of love. The Japanese "30-hour system". Used in nightlife, broadcasting, and transport, the time extends the day past midnight to keep late-night events grouped with the same calendar day. So a club open from 11PM to 1AM might list its hours as 23:00โ€“25:00.

We should all adopt this!

Sadly Wikipedia does not have a detailed page on this system in English but here is a little longer explanation:

https://skdesu.com/en/30-hours-from/

#Japan #30HourClock #TimeTrivia

I was told by a colleague that NASA sometimes use extended hour formats (like 25:00 or 26:00) to keep events grouped on the same operational day. So it is kinda the same as the Japanese 30-hour system. I cannot find a great article on this but if someone knows of one, let me know. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Ok, I did not find an article on extended times (past midnight) from NASA but you can indeed find references that confirm it is a thing they do, e.g. from this page:

https://www.nasa.gov/history/afj/ap15fj/05day2_checking_sps.html

I mean, if it is good enough for both the Japanese and NASA, we really should all do this, right @sotolf ? ๐Ÿ˜‰

@sotolf Then again the Americans are already scared of the 24 hour clock. If we push for the 30 hour notation I think they might lose it altogether.

Butโ€ฆ they did give us Trump, so I am not adverse to making them feel a little uncomfortable. ๐Ÿคท

Here's an idea. Many smartphones and watches have sleep trackers. If your smart device knows you have not slept yet, should it list the time with this 30 hour system?

I mean if you stayed up late and decided to go to a club it might help if your watch used the same notation for closing times as the place you want to get into, right?

Especially if you are a little drunk as it requires less thinking. ๐Ÿค”

A nice comment/observation from @th

https://social.v.st/@th/115259199472957368

"@ruari the GTFS spec uses this for transit system https://developers.google.com/transit/ "

Something similar was also pointed out to me by @hananc, " In Israel, there is a bus that leaves at midnight and a half. In the timeline it says 24:30 of the previous date so people are not confused which midnight and half it leaves at."

https://tooot.im/@hananc/115259241108692260

ื—ื ืŸ ื›ื”ืŸ โ€ข Hanan Cohen (@[email protected])

@[email protected] In Israel, there is a bus that leaves at midnight and a half. In the timeline it says 24:30 of the previous date so people are not confused which midnight and half it leaves at.

Toootim

Another useful comment from @hananc, "it is mentioned in this wikipedia pageโ€ฆ"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-hour_clock#Times_after_24:00

which in turn also links to

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_in_Japan#Time

24-hour clock - Wikipedia

@ruari @hananc
A new item for "Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Time", I think?

#Times_after_24 #Time

More falsehoods programmers believe about time; "wisdom of the crowd" edition

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@hananc @ruari
I think that refers to timekeeping on Mars, and wouldn't cover times from about 24:40 onwards
@ruari If my clock started telling me the time was 25:30, I would probably take that as a sign that I've had enough and that it's time to go home...
@kly Butโ€ฆ maybe that is a good thing? ๐Ÿคฃ

@ruari @sotolf
There's a trick.

Just call it "military time" and add a couple of yellow ribbons๐Ÿ˜œ

@leeloo I mean, it'd probably work. Call it American Military time and they would surely love it. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿ˜‰
@ruari
You don't think "military time" with a couple of yellow support the troops ribbons is enough?
@leeloo I mean, go all in if we are trying to sell this. Maybe Patriot Time is even better. ๐Ÿคช