@JimBliss The true antifascists—the anarchists, socialists, communists, and trade unionists who were the first targets of the Nazi SA—were the real #Antifa. They were the ones fighting on the streets of Berlin in 1932, not on D-Day in 1944, because that’s when fascism could still be fought. By the time the militaries of other empires intervened, it was already too late; the German left, along with millions of others, had already been massacred, imprisoned, or exiled.
@enoch_exe_inc yes and i still think this post is correct in pointing out the irony that the army of the United States that once fought the fascists now has a commander in chief that considers antifa to be a terrorist organisation.
@betalars @enoch_exe_inc You can fight against fascism and still not be an antifascist. Captain America is a fictional example; almost all the other Allied forces (except the Soviet Red Army) are real-life examples. The Western Allies fought the Axis, not fascism as an ideology; and WWII was a geopolitical war fought against the rival imperialist forces of the Axis, and not a moral crusade.
@betalars @enoch_exe_inc If it were otherwise, the French, for example, would not have immediately tried to re-establish their colonial empires in Vietnam and Africa. It sucks to be invaded, occupied, and have your culture and identity slowly erased—but clearly, the Western Allies didn’t learn their lesson or even understand what fascism was and went right back to doing civilising missions.
@enoch_exe_inc yeah that's actually a valid point. Imperialists fighting fascists is probably more of a McDonalds fighting BurgerKing situation.
@betalars @enoch_exe_inc Yeah, the Western Allies weren’t really opposed to fascism; they were only upset they didn’t get to be the ones to do it.