MicroWaveAOC reportedly prepping for 2028 presidential or Senate run
themeatbridgePlotting, eh? How diabolical of her.
LucidlethargyShe’s earned my vote now.
empireOfLove2Very quaint of them expecting an actual election to happen in 2028
OpenStarsEven Russia is a “democracy”.
I’m 100% sure we’ll have an election in 2028. The interesting question is whether it will be free and fair. Remember, even China and Russia hold elections; just not ones the incumbent can lose.
More likely she’s running for senate.
Why do you think this?
I’m not the guy you’re responding to, but historically it’s been a lot easier to be taken seriously after a stint in the Senate. Hard to say if that’s still the case, we live in weird times, but the Democrat establishment is a lot more bound by tradition than Republicans, and it frequently leads them astray.
It’s very possible with a coalition formed through other recent success stories like Mamdani, she’s concluded that a coup of sorts is possible (and I mean that with the utmost excitement). They might have numbers showing now is the time to capitalize on a ground swell and really shift the party. I’m aiming they’ve got some sort of data backing this, even if it’s just “we don’t know if we can win but we know the establishment Democrats will lose”
Ah yes, I remember when Trump became a Senator.
Fun stats: 17 U.S. presidents were previously U.S. senators, and also 17 were previously state governors (additionally, Harrison and Taft were territorial governors, and Jackson was military governor of the territory of Florida).
Six U.S. presidents had held previously both governor and U.S. senator roles, including Jackson and Harrison’s non-state governorships.
5 U.S. presidents were not elected to public office prior to holding the presidency - Taylor, Grant, Hoover, Eisenhower, and Trump.
I know I’m a day late here replying but this narrative is just antiquated like our entire system. If we want to keep at this, we don’t need her after a stint in the Senate, we need her now. What exactly will she gain by going that route? Because it’s the best way to gain respect? Maybe she’ll get some experience?
Look, statistically you are right. But let’s run the facts, normal is just a setting on the dryer and we’re not playing by the standard rulebook anymore.
As much as I would love a very progressive Democrat from New York to be president she realistically has no chance of getting enough voters to win the GE especially in the purple/red states that Harris had a hard time with.
The best she could aim for is running in the primary, shaking up the candidates and getting the winner to adopt her agenda or at least have her as a VP.
I think winner adopted agenda would be nice but I don’t think VP is the move. I would love for her to take Schumers seat.
sunbrrnslapperTo be fair, Harris was a reasonably unlikable candidate. Maybe AOC has similar baggage. I hope not. I’d love to see her at the top of a ticket.
I don’t think AOC has that baggage. Democratic voters want someone that isn’t a corpo-centrist running like being not-Trump is enough. Every argument that can be made against AOC could have been made against Obama in 2006 too, but he had a message that resonated and won. AOC could be in a good position to do something similar. I’d sure vote for her, even if she’s become more mainstream she’s still miles ahead of every other likely candidate.
It doesn’t matter what her message is, no one will hear it because the news will only be reporting on what the white house tells them to report, and if they go off script they will get their licenses pulled or sued for billions.
That’s going to be equally true no matter who the nominee is—and given that, the key factor will be which candidate best appeals to the fraction of the population that doesn’t rely on Trump-aligned news.
One of the biggest issues with Harris is that she wasn’t elected in the primary. If AOC is elected in the primary, she has way more of a chance.
especially in the purple/red states that Harris had a hard time with.
Harris had a hard time with those places because she was an empty suit neoliberal promising no significant change whatsoever and also genocide. The whole "it's misogyny" thing is a cop out so establishment Dems don't have to confront their godawful platform.
Phew, it’s a good thing Trump solved that genocide, right fellas!
That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
If Harris brought genocide, you’re saying Trump didn’t.
What the fuck? I said Harris promised genocide, which she did. Learn some reading comprehension.
I think you misremember. Trump actually promised to further the genocide. And he delivered too.
Okay say something relevant or bless us with your silence.
That’s my point! Thank you.
Enjoy your weekend
Enjoy your weekend
And allowing Trump to win by not electing Harris benefited the victims of genocide how, exactly?
It didn't and that has fucking nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Like, god damn did you even read what I wrote?
He certainly delivered on significant change!
That’s definitely true. In the worst way possible, so far.
Harris had a hard time with those places because she was an empty suit neoliberal promising no significant change whatsoever and also genocide.
Unlike Biden?
Obama sure as hell didn’t struggle with those red and purple states.
Obama is a man.
Black men were granted the right to vote in America before white women were.
Unlike Biden?
Literally yes. Biden was the most progressive American president in a loooong time, and his campaign showed it. I mean he was still a neolib and definitely not the man of the hour, but in more normal times (and without a genocide to aid and abet) he'd be considered a better than average president, though one with his pitfalls.
Obama is a man.
Black men were granted the right to vote in America before white women were.
Sure, but I have a very hard time believing your average potential blue voter (so not MAGA chuds) would hate a black woman appreciably more than a black man. Black is firmly at the top of the hierarchy of American hate; they got the right to vote sooner because they were willing to take to the streets about it sooner.
especially in the purple/red states that Harris had a hard time with.
Bullshit. She has a better chance in those states than Harris had, specifically because she isn’t an establishment Democrat.
How much longer is it going to take before folks finally start to get it through their heads that left populists like Bernie and AOC can tap into the same disillusionment that Trump exploited?
Sorry, best we can do is Cuomo. - DNC, probably
Sterile_TechniqueShe’ll have my vote. …assuming there is actually a 2028 election. And that we’re not extinct by then.
She’d have my vote, but I doubt she could win.
Yeah I would definitely support her but I don’t know why you have downvotes. The fascist have been running character hit pieces on her and misinformation campaigns for like a decade now non stop. Also America has shown it’s true colors by electing Trump twice. I just don’t know how people think we go from an open racist to a women of color without major election reform. Which is happening. Just in the wrong direction. What reality are y’all living in where she has a chance? I hope I’m wrong but just from looking at the current state of things… I know people are somewhat fed up with things, but the idea that they’ll pull their heads out of their racist asses by that time seems ludicrous.
She might run if she believes it would steer the conversation in a productive way, even if she didn’t believe she could win a primary.
I think she’d have a great shot at the primary.
“Plotting”? Wtf is this wording?
Propaganda, as is usual
It worked so hard. I’m voting for her because this means she’s serious.
She’s plotting against the democratic establishment that wants to nominate another creepy fash loser.
That’s kind of how the article frames this. She’s popular with young voters, but would be jumping ahead of “established” “Democrats”. Very stupid framing since the establishment has failed us so consistently.
AOC is instrumenting a plot of running for office, while MAGA is merely preparing for another coup.
As JD Vance’s Peter Thiel funded miracle run through the Senate proved, you don’t have to be a Senator long to run for Pres. or VP.
Vance had just two years in professional politics before becoming VP, thanks to Peter Thiel.
It’s a pay-for-play system, not a Representative Democracy.
The DNC would never allow her to win the nomination.
I am hoping that she does this to them…
SarcasticManLook if she comes out of the box swinging, and I mean haymakers both left and right, she could do it. The DNC has to have an honest to god real primary and not the horse shit they pulled with Bernie or the last-minute Harris takeover.
If AOC wins a primary and is nominated, hits the ground at a full sprint, doesn’t pull punches on either side of the political spectrum, prays to Jah, and crosses her fingers she could do a Billy Clint or Obama. She is going to have to learn to play the Saxophone, confess to smoking weed and inhaling, slow jam the news, and probably host a full episode of SNL not just appear as herself in a sketch. If she did all that and she convinces Jesus to come down from on high and endorse her she has a 50/50 chance.
Oh, and she’ll need a gun for her purse like that bargain bin Barbie from Colorado or the dude from Georgia’s 14th congressional district.
Trump is going to try to have her assassinated. I garuntee it.
Donated.
If AOC is the candidate, it will be the first time since Bernie that I will phone bank, knock down doors, canvas … Whatever it takes.
She is one of the few people in politics that I can get behind.
Fox has propagandized the right to hate her to such an immense degree that this simply is a terrible idea. She can never win.
Why is it a problem that the right hate her? They’re not voting for her anyway. Modern US elections are won by motivating new people on your own side to vote, not by reaching across the aisle.
Well the propaganda doesn’t only work on the right.
Also, the youngest president in history was 41. She has zero chance.
Why does that matter? She’s well over the age limit, and we’ve been getting the oldest president ever quite a few times. The US is all about overcompensating, so I don’t see why we couldn’t swing back to the youngest ever by a small margin. She’s nearly 36 now, so she’ll be 39 when the term starts. I’d certainly be excited about the prospect of having a president who grew up with electricity.
Im sorry youre getting down voted, because youre right. Sorry to be a downer but I interact with real people (unlike i presume a lot of lemmings), and a LOT of them do not like her, for reasons spread by propaganda news all over the place. They know nothing other than she’s a woman and will take yer guns, so she will never win.
I hope we are wrong though.
So the way I could see this working for her is have Bernie Sanders come and endorse her right out the gate (I doubt he’d be up for being her running mate, but it’d probably be an even better run if he accepted that).
Ol’ boy had been VERY effective at breaking into right - leaning spaces and I could see him contributing to getting the historically Democrat (but not recently Democrat) voter out for AOC.
My real concern is the party leaders. I could see them trying to hold back resources and effectively pulling the same moves they pulled in Bernie to hold her down.
If I’m still in the US by then and we even have elections still, she has my vote.