Do the #Democrats suck?

Yes

The Democrats are also #Mamdani and #AOC

Do you view the Dems as an omnipotent alien monolith?

Why? They are an empty vessel. Fill them with your will. 50 AOCs. 50 Mamdanis

Do the centrists disgust you?

Good

Mob the #primaries. Vote them out

No?

You'd rather just feel disgust and disengage?

What does that achieve?

Are your feelings more important than our reality?

Fucking #VOTE goddamn it

How many fought and died- for your indolence and ineffectuality?

@benroyce I def agree with this. And I def will vote *if* there are elections next year.

I think the important consideration is that people seem to think voting *is* the way out of this mess we’re in. It’s not. Other actions must be taken now.

It’s the complacency, waiting for AOC and Mamdani to “save” us, that’s going to be our downfall.

@markwyner

what are these alternative methods

please, speak them

i'm not saying voting is all you do. but if voting doesn't figure as the easiest most effective tactic? fucking bullshit

@benroyce @markwyner I think all Mark is saying is that politicians will only act in the interests of the people if the people show them who they are. Voting is important - for all the reasons you've suggested in the past - but voting alone isn't enough.

The public need to be using every form of resistance to loudly reject fascism, and pressure the politicians into growing a backbone. Otherwise they'll always try to appease the fascists, as we're seeing today here in Britain.

@ApostateEnglishman @markwyner

i have no problem with you or mark's position

my only problem was that mark wrote "I think the important consideration is that people seem to think voting *is* the way out of this mess we’re in. It’s not"

he meant "*is* the >>>only<<< way out"

so this entire thread is a silly sidetrack because of one forgotten word. it's all cleared up further below

it happens

i've gotten into situations because i forgot a word too before