LadyButterfly she/herBut I don't like the burning!
knowoneAnd you know anyone like this isn’t pronouncing fajita correctly. I mean anyone buying these any of these “kits” in the first place isn’t, let’s be real
I can spend an extra hour cooking the good shit for an extra 15% that my family probably won’t even notice or I can have this done in 15 minutes.
You’re be shocked to find out that plenty Mexicans eat this because, shocking I know, it saves time and not every meal gets the weekend meals treatment.
Ok fair enough, I take back my comment and I’m sorry for it. I was talking more from a “getting each ingredient individually is cheaper and then you can make more later” perspective, rather than a “you’d get way more for your one meal” perspective. But I understand what you mean and I see I was wrong to tar everyone with the same brush. Which isn’t something you should do ever
As someone who grew up in a family that would just buy something like this because they don’t consider they can just get everything cheaper otherwise, and pronounces so many Spanish words cringely wrong and refuses to change when corrected, I guess all I could see was a load of people just like them lol
DigitalprimateHave an upvote on your original comment so you’re not negative; nice to see an honest bit of (minor) contrition in our public discourse.
Haha thanks I appreciate your kind words. I’m not one for dying on hills, I’ll save myself the later shame and anxiety setting in I get from being belligerent
blackn1ghtHow do you think people are pronouncing them?
Closer to “Vegeta”, if that makes sense. Just like how so many people say tortilla without proper pronunciation on the l’s
Honestly I’ve never heard anyone pronounce it like that, more like “fah-eater”.
Wow fair enough, I’ve heard so many do it. Obviously I don’t know your background but I think maybe it’s because I grew up and have spent a fair bit of my adult life in the northern countryside? The non-White English demographic round my home region is very low. And I’ve never met a Spaniard or Latin person around there either, I’m pretty sure. Just a theory, anyways
vext01Chicken and chorit-so please. (Rolls eyes)
I mean, the issue there is more about a collection of languages all using the same alphabet but where letters have language- and dialect-dependent sounds, as well as wildly varying rules for how to pronounce letter combinations (and then English isn’t even consistent on that in the same language and dialect).
Appreciation and tolerance of food are different from understanding of languages and pronounciation.
ExtremeDullardThat reminds me of an anecdote.
When I lived in Utah many years ago, we regularly had the visit of two colleagues from our London office. They would come and stay for a few days to work with us, and of course we entertained them in the evening.
One evening, we all decided to go for a curry. So we went to some Indian restaurant in Provo, UT if memory serves.
The waiters arrived - real Indians in full fake Raj regalia, as per the restaurant’s theme - and took our orders.
Then they asked how spicy. The two Brits looked at each other and said in a low voice “Well, it’s Utah, everything is bland here, so we’d better overdo it on the spiciness to get something halfway as spicy as a London curry.”
So they announced “Nuclear."
“Are you sure?” the waiters said
“Yeah yeah. Nuclear!"
“Okay….”
15 minutes later, the waiters came back with our orders. Then instead of leaving, they turned and faced the two Brits and simply stood there with a total lack of expression on their faces.
The two went “Uh oh…”
It was the hottest curry they had ever had. They tried to put on a good show for the impassible waiters looking at them, but they quickly turned red and sweaty, and they had trouble not looking like they were panicking when reaching for the water.
We were pissing ourselves laughing 🙂
I have essentially the same story, except it’s two Americans visiting Bradford.
tetris11They knew what they signed up for.
They came there to die then.
Well then they were being stupid because obviously it’s an actual authentic Indian restaurant they’re going to do the spice properly.
Well, the logic was sound: Utah really is quite bland in every way - or at least it was in the 90’s, not sure now - and if I was an Indian opening an Indian restaurant there, I’d tone down the spices to suit the local palates.
or at least it was in the 90’s, not sure now
They added a slip 'n slide :D
God forbid the waitress sitting there hearing this conversation give them more than a you sure after hearing they thought it would be bland because that’s the entire town 🙄.
PhilipTheBucketMan, after hearing that conversation she probably asked for a 10. “’White man’s burden’ go fuck yourself sahib, have fun with the curry Mr super exotic London man.”
I have also 100% had wait staff do that to me, I learned my lesson after the first time.
“Authentic” Indian restaurants in the West are fuck all like food in India. Indians are not there asking for more and more chilli in their dhal to impress their mates after the pub. It’s an India theme park for lager louts.
My favourite Indian restaurant was this little hole in the wall place (for the first three years of operation, they upgraded when the word got out). The first time I went I ordered a Vindaloo, the lovely waitress/chef that took my order asked how spicy. I was a fool and said, I like spicy food, how about a 6 out of 10. I actually made it 3/4 of the way through but the owner/other chef came out to check on me, I think because he was worried I was about to combust. It was astounding, easily the best Vindaloo I have ever eaten.
The next time I went in I ordered a white guy 4, it honestly was still fantastic, but not as good. The owner came out to say hi, asked what I had ordered this time, and he said “Ah yes we make that without any chilli.”, never been sure how I should take that. For a while I was hoping to gradually increase my tolerance but I think I am topping out at white guy 9.
What is white guy 9?
The 9 out of 10 they serve people like me, it might have an equivalency for their authentic scale, I don’t know. This is one of those places where when we go in for a meal there is a constant stream of people with much darker skin than us coming in to pick up takeaway and it was like that before Uber eats was in the area. Apparently it was really popular in the Malaysian student community, before our government decided to fuck over the education system to make a bunch of racists happy by limiting student visas.
I guess I was trying to figure out how this 9 compared to the 4 and the 6 from the other paragraph, haha.
I get what you mean, though.
I dunno if my tolerance has ever actually increased or not. I can say I sometimes test it with a carolina reaper thing from a local restaurant, and that thing will make me actually sick, haha.
Hopefully this doesnt make me sound too ignorant, but I find Indian food hits different to hot sauce. With Hot Sauce you are trying to condense down all the different elements into a single substance its why it works so well on fairly bland chicken or with chips etc. Indian cuisine is like a palate of different flavours, so instead of having to build sour notes in they can have pickles, for sweetness take some chutney or a Raita or Lassi. Means I can handle a subjectively hotter curry than hot sauce.
That’s probably a dumb take but I find that to be the case, and the larger the group the greater variety of extras can be justified and shared which makes the whole thing even better. At a 4/10 WBS (white boy scale) I get a bit of colour, at a 6/10 WBS I would be fairly rosy and have some sweat going, at 9/10 WBS I am beet red and the sweat is flowing (and I will probably pay for it the next day).
I had the pleasure of attending a Nepali wedding a few years back and I found all the food on offer there very manageable. Also went to a neighbourhood BBQ where a group of lovely Chinese ladies from Heilongjiang had prepared some dishes from their home. When I mentioned the flavour was great but it felt like it was.lacking in heat I got an immediate invitation to her house (which I sadly never took up due to life being busy) so she could make my wife and I the version that’s not been “Australianised” by removing most of the heat.
Anyway all of that is a very roundabout way of saying that for someone as picky as I am about a lot of traditionally English foods, I am glad I can give other cuisines a crack.
TBF, I haven’t fully appreciated an Indian dish if my scalp isn’t sweating.
Had a friend try that with me in R’dam recently, his favorite Korean fried chicken place. Ordered their nuclear option (among a bunch of others), and was humiliated when he died after one and I ate the rest. TBH they were hot, but kind of hot for being hot’s sake, didn’t really add to the flavor/experience, which IMO is the whole point of heat.
TotallyNotSpezAnd I just tested the hot sauce Da bomb beyond insanity. Long story short, it lives up to its name.
It’s fun, but it tastes awful. It’s certainly not my hottest sauce, but it’s the biggest slap in the face because there’s not good flavour to enjoy, just nasty flavoured heat.
LainTrainIsn’t that every hot sauce?
Different peppers have different flavour profiles, unless the cooking method strips the flavour intentionally.
Naga Jolokia peppers, and the hot sauces, I’ve found go very well with complimenting the flavour of a lamb curry (for example) without distracting from the flavour overall.
Naga Jolokia peppers, and the hot sauces, I’ve found go very well with complimenting the flavour of a lamb curry (for example) without distracting from the flavour overall.
Nah. Some peppers are flavour bombs, others are purely for burn or kick. When making a sauce, you load up flavours and then drop in some of the heat peppers just to bring up the slap and burn. There’s hot sauces much hotter than Da Bomb, but having them you wouldn’t think it because of all the delicious distracting flavours, profiles, and how the heat comes and goes.
Da Bomb is quite hot but it’s got nothing else going for it so you really have nothing else to focus on but the heat.
Peppers? Yeah I like black pepper, I always douse my food with that shit, but idk about the oriental ones those don’t seem to have much appeal or flavor to me.
If you want a good starter tasty hot sauce, go with sriracha, rooster brand if you can find it. It’s a red sauce in a plastic bottle with a green tip spout; you’ve probably seen it at pizza places and asian restaurants many times.
I don’t find it that hot anymore these days, but the flavour is delicious. I use it more then ketchup.
I tried it, it’s not my thing and I don’t go to asian restaurants cuz I don’t like any asian food.
Widely recognized as being horrible in addition to being really hot.
I expect nothing less from a people who eat Vegemite/Marmite.
rustyfishThe burning they experience was nothing to do with the spices.
My mum was cooking, I’m very sorry, she cooks for my dad’s palate.
I’m not British or Australian, but this is what I’d want.
I’d be quite surprised. The USA and Aus have quite a bit of spicy influence. India for UK, Thai for aus…sure many people don’t like spicy food but most do.
I loved in UK for a bit and remember being quite surprised that fàst food, like burger king, had proper spicy food.
I swear there’s probably more Indian restaurants in the UK than there is in India. Where I suppose they are just called restaurants.
the entire spiciness of the world is concentrated along a single road in Balham
As an Indian that’s travelled throughout India and consumed cuisine from several different regions, I’m not entirely sure who told you this but some degree of spiciness is universal in the dishes. Even milder vegetarian dishes have a kick.
It may have been your colleague that told you this but it certainly isn’t one specific region.
The south Indian is where the spice is. North Indian is where the partying is.
sudo bring me dosa masala myore
hell yeah it is
[x] Doubt
I loved in UK
Me too, me too…
Spicy food has a history, particularly in the US, of being associated with masturbation and hypersexuality. Puritans wants food as bland as possible.
In Europe, after the colonial era started, spices became more widely available and were no longer a status symbol (as they were previously only available to the wealthy). This led to the elites turning their noses up to spices and a belief system that the base ingredient should not be defiled in flavor by spice which eventually bled over into the rest of European culture.
npr.org/…/how-snobbery-helped-take-the-spice-out-…
Serving richly spiced stews was no longer a status symbol for Europe’s wealthiest families — even the middle classes could afford to spice up their grub. “So the elite recoiled from the increasing popularity of spices,” Ray says. “They moved on to an aesthetic theory of taste. Rather than infusing food with spice, they said things should taste like themselves. Meat should taste like meat, and anything you add only serves to intensify the existing flavors.”
“In Europe, meat was considered the manliest, strongest component of a meal,” Laudan notes, and chefs wanted it to shine. So they began cooking meat in meat-based gravies, to intensify its flavor.
Cooking with spices is different from spiciness specifically but I think the same principles apply (with regard to perceptions at the time).
Spicy food has a history, particularly in the US, of being associated with masturbation and hypersexuality. Puritans wants food as bland as possible.
Huh. So that’s why.
Also, this sounds like some old school Kelloggs shit. That guy was an absolute freak.
Captain AggravatedYeah corn flakes were invented to bland you out of jerking it.
pimento64Fun fact: Kellog was proud to say he never consummated his completely celibate marriage. Also, he had multiple intense enemas every day that blasted pressurized water against his prostate at rate of 17 gallons a minute (or slower when it was the more viscous yogurt enema).
redchertPuritans Protestants wants food as bland as possible.
The same also applied to no-dancing, no fancy churches or too ornate clothes, being stoic, too tasty food. You werent supposed to find joy in excess and be a wastrel.
Aussie here. I was in Bangkok this week and currently on a TGV hurtling across EU towards London.
The Thai food in Australia is not as spicy as the stuff in Thailand. It’s otherwise authentic.
The hottest Vindaloo I ever had was in a London pub. I haven’t been in the last 12 years, so I’ll measure this again. I also haven’t seen Foster’s beer on tap since my last London visit. Go figure.
Yes, but it’s spicier than a mild salsa from old El Paso.
I’m unsurprised about Australia. The food culture there is pretty great but somehow good Mexican cuisine is almost entirely absent.