inclementimmigrantABC Affiliate Owner Demands Jimmy Kimmel Make Charlie Kirk Donation
This is what allowing media consolidation got you, Democrats. Sinclair has been putting its thumb on the scale for decades and you did nothing, even while they were having a measurable negative impact to Democratic support.
Perhaps most blatantly:
Sinclair executive David Smith met with Donald Trump during the 2016 election year, in which he told the future president, “We are here to deliver your message.”
Yeah! The Democrats are the real villains here!! Not the actual fascists running the show, doing the evil, pulling the triggers, deporting the innocent, ignoring the laws… Fuck off with this hindsight blame game shit. Fascism is here and the real blame lies on the American people.
Two things can be true at the same time.
How’s that working out for you? Bringing meaningful change? Hmm?
Hows ignoring truths you don’t like working out for you? Bringing meaningful change? Hmm?
What am I ignoring?
To over-simplify:
Republicans == evil
Democrats == complicit
CharlesDarwinIt’s probably another example of Murc’s Law. And once you see Murc’s Law in action, you can never unsee it. You’ll see it everywhere, and every day.
whereofonecanspeak.com/…/youve-probably-never-hea…
Murc’s law is named after the insight of the eponymous LGM commenter that, in American politics, only Democrats are assumed to have agency. Republicans are like rocks rolling down hill or perhaps sharks eating seals: they do what they do because that’s just what they are, so there’s no point in holding them responsible for anything, since they could not do o[t]herwise.
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That great description from : lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/…/the-paradoxical-limits…
Get the fuck out of here, stop excusing the Democrats. If they had any guts, or loyalty, they would have been popular enough to defeat these Republicans posing an existential threat to the Republic they claim to represent.
After the last three presidential shit shows in a row and you are still excusing these Democrats like they are doing an acceptable job? We already knew what the Republicans were, and we did nothing to stop them, or Worse believed The Establishment Democrats were able and willing to stop them. Fuck your law. The Democrats are fucking worthless and it’s about time you admit you made a mistake so we can get opposition leaders that can win.
Who is excusing the Democrats? What do you want people to do, right now? The Democrats have next to no power right now. Why are they getting all the blame for everything that Republicans do?
I want people to demand new leadership in the Democratic Party. To demand every establishment fuck resigns their seat in the party leadership.
Which does not even touch on how somehow we have not had a single Challenger for house or senate, or the fucking presidency last year. What is wrong with this party? I know the answer I want you to think about it.
Because there is no way we get rid of our current government under the leadership of this opposition party.
Oh, don’t get it twisted: I have my issues with the Democratic Party. Many things drive me crazy about the party. The “moderates” within the party like Manchin. Or the turncoat Fetterman. And just where the fuck have most of them been under this regime? Schumer is supposed to be our firebrand?
And we have a whole lot of supposed activists that seem mostly fired up about identity politics instead of old-school labor activism. Preoccupied with being liberal scolds and trying to shame and ostracize people who might not use the most updated terms for all things, or not be 100% on board for all things left, but might be 80% there. Further polarizing and pushing away people who should be our allies, even if they are merely “pale males”. We had better get as many votes from everyone as possible. If we are only seeking votes from the winners of the Oppression Olympics, we are well and truly fucked.
But as far as actionable things…how do you propose to make anyone you’ve deemed as “establishment” resign? Did you campaign for a challenger? Do we have a stable of challengers somewhere that are viable? All this shit takes money, too - what billionaires are helping to fund any of this?
We need to take the d party from state and county level, and national, and when that fails, as I expect it will for the DCCC, they should be frozen out, mocked, ridiculed, and an alternative organization built out.
Az did as much years back, but they did not have the support of any big picture National Organization to be able to build out an alternate organization as the moderates hid their lists and valuable information and give it to their own alternative organization.
We will never be able to get a stable of Challengers with the party actively suppressing them as we speak. The first step is organizing and getting rid of these hacks that failed us three elections in a row and continue to not realize their mistake.
Finding good candidates needs to be on some forum, perhaps in numerable groups Federated on a national, or International forum where people could cooperate on what they agree on both publicly and privately, where we could find and groom political candidates. But also too work on Collective actions, like if you do not support this thing this many of us will not vote for you type stuff. It would have to be Federated because if not they would find some illegality and illegalize the entire thing. They might do so anyway.
wetbeardhairsThis is the first I have heard of Murc’s law. It succinctly describes the nature of American politics. It’s uncanny.
Yeah, I’ve seen/heard it mentioned before, but The Professional Left podcast brought it up again. I’m fairly certain I’ve heard them mention it over the years, multiple times.
podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/…/id352076108?i=100…
Anyway, it provides convenient shorthand for something you just read/hear all the freaking time. It’s like ever since I became politically aware, decades ago, it’s been there, but hard to put a name to. I’m sure this goes way, way back to at least the 1950s: “The Democrats made the Republicans form the John Birch Society!”
But it’s also very accurate because the right simply doesn’t listen. They might as well be literal rocks. There is no discussion or debate to be had because they don’t follow your reality or logic.
bufalo1973Not the villains. But they should do what they need to do to balance the play field.
Bad take. It’s not hindsight when everyone was screaming about it for, again, literally well over a decade and no attempt was made by the FCC to regulate it. Maybe you personally weren’t aware of how dangerous this issue was becoming, but many of us were, including, importantly, Congress itself.
So you’re saying that the Republicans planned for this, set in motion the plan and executed the plan, but the Democrats let it happen so it’s on them. Why, I think that’s a page right out of the narcissist handbook.
No, that’s the straw man you’ve created and attributed to me. I’m not going to continue this discussion, because it’s predicated on reading comprehension and good faith.
Ooh you’re one of those types. Gotcha. Enjoy the fall of America from your high horse, buddy!
I am not sure about that. The rich destroyed I our education and ability to live well in many cases. Uneducated people that are constantly exhausted and stressed are more easily manipulated. Goddammit I’m so sick of common people getting blamed for everything while the rich are the ones making shit worse, getting richer of our labor while they molest all these kids. The lobbyist like AIPAC and the billionaires need to be drained of resources and banned from ever doing business in the US again.
This is extremely dangerous to our democracy!
theprogressivist Donate deep nutz. But seriously Kimmel don’t bend the fucking knee.
The fact that he hasn't made any statement about this situation yet strongly suggests that he's got them stick straight legs. Guy's got plenty of money, and now, more attention on him than he's probably ever had in his life. From a "making his way in the world" perspective, he's fine.
Let the fascists keep digging a while, no reason to say anything at all until the absolute right moment presents itself.
He’s got a few hundred employees that are out of work. I wouldn’t be surprised if he bends if only to keep their paychecks.
That's also true, and I'd bet he and his people are in discussions with them and with other platforms already. The lack of a statement from him to date would go along with that, too.
Zachariah
He’s not getting the show back, not without agreeing to be nice which defeats the fucking purpose. The president said as much after he got Colbert fired, that Kimmel was next. Appeasing them will not fix anything it will only make them worse. Making these appeasers pay for their Craven betrayal will help.
As Pritzker said just yesterday, there are consequences to standing up, but the consequences of not standing up are so much worse.
Pritzker is the expert on not standing up. Seeing as he did not stand up in 2024 when we needed somebody that could win the Democratic presidential race, and he chose not to. Apparently bad faith bigotry allegations are enough to prevent our Democratic leaders from saving our country from an unthinkable irreversible results. Newsom too. Both failed america and have forfeited there right to run for presidency in the future.
Illinois has done a metric fuckton of good things under his watch, not the least of which is Little t backing down on sending Texas National Guard to Chicago.
Yet by not standing up and taking the presidency they did an inquantifiably larger amount of damage.
Why are the leaders in opposition to the Republicans all fucking cunts? That’s a good question, what is not in question is that pritzker is one of said cunts in question. No challenge for house leadership, senate leadership, not the presidency, not even with a universally unpopular candidate that never breached 30% approval offering zero reform running as the status quo in 2024.
When it comes right down to it, the 2024 election was decided by a relatively small number of voters (and non-voters) in a handful of swing states, of which neither Illinois nor California are. You're making vague and unsubstantiated claims that governors of solid blue states are somehow responsible.
Who did you vote for, and in what state?
We needed a candidate that could win, and despite being that, both pritzker and Newsom decided not to run, because it was not their turn presumably.
Being accused of bigotry was just a bridge too far for them I guess, much better to surrender the nation to fascists openly seeking on permanently fixing elections and ruling under an unending reign of terror!
Now their weak acts would not be enough to overcome the efforts to fix those elections even if they had the guts to stand up and take it if they do not.
Oh please. 2024 would not have turned out any differently had either of them put in a candidacy then. For one, neither had the name recognition then that they do now. More importantly, Biden ran. Nobody else was going to win the primary. When Biden finally stepped out, bringing in some new candidate that a lot of people hadn't even heard of would have been even worse. That whole episode in Democratic politics was a shitshow, but none of the blame for it lies with Newsom or Pritzker or any governor.
You have conveniently ignored my question, so I will ask it again:
Who did you vote for, and in what state?
On the contrary either one would have handily won with even a mild reform ticket. Kamala could have won with a reform ticket as well but she was chosen to not be reform wasn’t she? 30% maximum approval the entire term.
I do not know who is hand feeding you your opinions but Jesus Christ dude, here comes the airplane!
Who did you vote for, and in what state?
What does that have to do with my point? It doesn’t. My point went unaddressed by you that is instead trying to lob misplaced personal attacks.
misplaced person attacks
This you?
Here comes the airplane!
Go back to ML
Even now you won’t admit a mistake. Why would you, you are emulating those very same Democratic Leadership that did not admit a mistake. No, it is everybody else’s fault they nominated another shit candidate that can’t win and would not do anything with it if they did. Don’t let a handful of half wits voting with you here convince you otherwise. You are the problem. Admit you made a mistake so we can fix it!
Please refer to my previous comment.
How about you refer to the fact that the Democrats lost both houses of Congress and the presidency to a party fully intent on putting a permanent fix in on elections and ruling unopposed with the worst people in charge.
Fascists: Exist
DAMNED LIBRULS
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Putin. It’s the only available vote in his state.
P.S. All Demonrats are evil and let’s not talk about Republicans.
P.P.S. Is directly using “Demonrats” too revealing?
Yeah I have a feeling he’s going to sue, which is why he’s been silent.
I doubt he does. He is probably staying quiet for now, checking with lawyers on if there is any recourse.
So: extortion.
That’s what we are talking about here, right?
Not that it would happen, but I would so love for everyone to be remembering all these people for later prosecution under different leadership when Taco’s gone.
These assholes should go to fucking prison for this.
Yup, extortion from a private citizen and 1st amendment violations from the FCC.
Not to mention both Sinclair and Nexstar are publicly traded companies. Surely getting involved in politics to the point where you are denying your viewership popular programing would eventually negatively affect shareholder value?
I think if I had shares in either of these companies I’d be questioning the leadership of the organization.
These are MAGA companies that have been slowly pushing more and more propaganda on to the public airwaves. They firmly believe that their viewer base won’t be losing that many viewers and are counting on MAGA’s, rightly so probably, to cover for the loss.
Also could just be a general concept of investments… IE we lose 10 million here for canceling this show, we make 100 million in the merger we want to do next year.
anon6789It’s a $6.2 billion merger between Nexstar and TEGNA that is at stake.
Nexstar already has an almost 50% reach across the US. They’ve been sucking up to Trump this year because they want to merge with TEGNA, which would give them access to 90% of the country. To do this though, regulations need to be dropped to allow them to exceed limits that have been in place for decades to prevent this level of media control. This is the quid-pro-quo for them, as Colbert was for the Paramount merger.
The thing that’s great about this fascism run is that we have the fucking internet.
Whenever this shit falls apart, many of those folks will literally have no choice but to self-deport or go to jail.
I sure hope someone is keeping stock. Taco himself does so many egregious acts that I can barely keep up with what he did this week, nevermind what he’s done so far in this disastrous second term.
There are often times when someone will bring up something from his first disastrous term and I’ll have this feeling of - oh yeah, how could I have forgotten about that?
And that’s just him. Then there are all the things being done on his behalf by all his Little Eichmanns both when he was in office and not…there is a lot to track. And some of these assholes are so old - like, say, Roger Stone or Bannon - that they will likely die of old age before they get properly sent to (or back to) prison.
I have a feeling a lot of them are going to definitely attempt to do the modern equivalent of burn their Nazi uniforms afterwards, too, and the “liberal media” will do all the heavy lifting to sane wash these dickheads as much as possible. So I’m sure many, probably most, will escape justice.
Keeping track of liberal accusations is likely a crime.
I can certainly say that Trump never intimidated a witness such that his name would never end up on a list of pedophile buddies by famed pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.
Trump also never invited a riot on Jan 6 that aimed to overthrow the constitutional process
He also certainly never solicited bribes from corporations for his inauguration.
And he would never, NEVER break the Posse Comitatus Act in his occupations of LA, DC, and Chicago.
That’s why I will never keep track of these far left woke accusations.
samus12345I don’t know if the rot can be cleansed without a complete collapse of the country, which won’t have the infrastructure to go after the fascists.
Germany figured it out just fine.
Germany was forced to by losing a war. That’s not happening this time.