The strangest fucking thing about right wingers and Charlie Kirk is that somehow they think we are still in the "polite discussion" phase of this "culture war" they kicked off/invented.

It tells you how goddamn fucking comfortable they are and how few marginalized people are in their lives.

That is to say Charlie Kirk only *said* things apparently. And apparently saying things can't lead to very real violence that people experience.

He was *only* talking. He *only* made a Watchlist of professors to inform people about who had liberal viewpoints, and if those people got horribly harassed & threatened, that's not on him.

They are "only" words.

Looks like Kirk got shot by a groyper honestly, so it's really a matter of infighting amongst themselves.

But when they get around to memorializing Kirk, they want to remind you, it was "only" words, only debate.

No, it wasn't. He hurt people.

He. Hurt. People.

I mean...

The right wing got their President & their Supreme Court & their Legislature. They are out there doing whatever they please.

But it's only words. "Why are you people so upset? It's just debate!"

No, it fucking isn't...not when the debate is accompanied by State violence it certainly isn't!

They think it's a game. They think we're trying to score points.

Charlie Kirk is apparently the first time it's becoming real to people that this isn't just a game...that they could get hurt.

They're shocked and aghast. "How can you be so callous?"

We've already lost so many to their violence, & they are scared *for the first time* & don't understand why we shrug & say "oh, this is just how the world IS now. You didn't know?"

This, I think, is at the heart of a lot of what I see right now from people who think of themselves as "free speech" champions: they didn't actually believe that real world violence underlies the things they say & do, because it's only violence when it happens to *them*.

They've been playing with no stakes while imagining they are courageous heroes, & now someone has introduced stakes. They didn't ever think that THEY would have actual skin in the game.

I just want to say to them "you didn't already know this 'game' was life or death? We did. And a lot of people have died. Are you fucking NEW here?"

It's the reality that violence begets violence that has apparently got them shook.

"Oh, I didn't think MY violence would ever come back on ME!"

Charlie Kirk was most likely shot by a right wing troll... It was EXACTLY his violence coming back to him. It wasn't a queer person or a Black person... It was most likely a straight white kid who has been listening to guys like Kirk his whole life.

@artemis

The problem with reactionary movements funded by wealthy fossil fuel fascists like Koch Network, Charlie Kirk's patron billionaires, is that the donors are indifferent to the costs of violence, even to their own paid supporters.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/04/06/trump-young-conservatives-college-charlie-kirk-turning-point-usa-217829/

https://www.desmog.com/2019/03/12/turning-point-meet-trump-allied-climate-science-denying-fossil-fuel-funded-ultra-conservative-us-student-group-coming/

https://www.prwatch.org/news/2020/04/13557/koch-foundation-criticizes-turning-point-usa-even-koch-network-funds-group

They made little effort to assure Charlie Kirk's safety & security because he was equally useful, dead or alive. Martyr is as good as paid malign influencer, from their perspective.

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The competition between the stans of Nick Fuentes vs Charlie Kirk is an example of how naturally & inevitably these fascist movements become schismatic and prone to internal squabbling that drags everyone else into their feuding.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/global-trends/us-news-after-charlie-kirk-shooting-tyler-robinsons-alt-right-links-to-nick-fuentes-spark-outrage-activist-breaks-silence/articleshow/123869902.cms

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/charlie-kirk-tyler-robinson-memes-meaning

Republicans have built a coalition rife with internal divisiveness because they have conflicting goals.

There's not enough government pork to go around.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/06/elon-musk-gop-donald-trump-midterms-00391246

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2025-06-23/trump-doctrine-coalition-contradictions

After Charlie Kirk shooting, Tyler Robinson’s alt-right links to Nick Fuentes spark outrage, activist brea

Tyler Robinson, a 22-year-old from Utah, has been arrested for the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Following the arrest, speculations arose online linking Robinson to the Groyper movement led by Nick Fuentes, known for his far-right and white supremacist views. Nick Fuentes has responded to these claims in a social media post.

Economic Times