Normal people don't know who Charlie Kirk is. My mom, dad, husband, neighbor are very confused why it's such a big deal.

Which is good to remember. He's never done anything notable. Didn't run for office, didn't break a big story, didn't write an important book.

So, for a lot of people this is all very confusing.

@futurebird look up "Horst Wessel" and Charlie Kirk will make a lot more sense.

@jbrownesq

I think it's very possible this attack was coming from one of the people who used to like him, angry because of the Epstein cover up. That's where *violent* rhetoric about this guy was coming from most recently.

@jbrownesq

Some of his fans had a para-social relationship with him. He's always been propped up by right wing big money, while trying to "reach out to the youth" and trying to seem "anti-establishment"

The cognitive dissonance of a recent statement he made "I will trust my friends in the government" (on Epstein) caused many of his fans to attack him. They were VERY mad.

So, that's what I suspect. Of course I could be wrong.

@futurebird @jbrownesq And Russia, don't forget Russia.

@ethanOS @jbrownesq

Tim Pool must not be feeling so good right now.

His fans have been going off the deep end too about that stuff.

@ethanOS @futurebird yes lets never forget about russia. Moose and Squirrel and Stranger Things and 007 made sure of that, didnt they lmao

@futurebird @[email protected] so he was the 'youth pastor' of bigoted fascists, got it.

Explains why I never heard of him.

@futurebird @jbrownesq I think it's important to not care too much about who he was.

He was a person who thought school shootings were ok, the necessary price of the second amendment.

He was a person who thought queer people should be killed.

He was a person who thought the Civil Rights Act was one of the greatest mistakes in history.

You don't need to know more than that. He was a shithead and we're better off without him. That's all that matters.

@andthisismrspeacock @futurebird I dont care who he was beyond this analysis, but I know a bit about him and I see how the fascist elements in the state and public spaces are immediately using his death in the same way Hitler's fascists used the death of Horst Wessel to gain more power, bring more violence to targeted classes of people.

fuck kirk and everyone like kirk. This is the randomly violent world he seemed to want so much, and he died by it.

@jbrownesq

I could totally be wrong. We still have no idea who this guy was or what he was on about. To some degree it doesn't matter because living with these shootings all of the time is intolerable.

A right wing fan who felt alienated.
A left wing extremist fixated on Kirk for some reason.
A person who didn't like Kirk for personal or imagined reasons not related to politics.

Anyone can buy a gun, it's so easy. It's even easy to buy one and no one knows that you have it.

@jbrownesq

Oh now he's "quiet" and "no one saw this coming"

I thought he was ultra-left antifa super-solider. What changed?

@futurebird @jbrownesq I saw it put best earlier today. The suspect turned out to be "demographically uncooperative."

@valthonis @jbrownesq

I thought it was really unlikely this was left wing violence because all of the violent death threats about this guy online were coming from the right.

@futurebird @jbrownesq I'd be willing to wager that most threats of violence against *anyone* in the public eye come from the right, all-time.
@valthonis @futurebird yep. Most terrorist attacks on US soil as well, but somehow we don't call it that and 'homeland security' keeps winding up being used to go after shoplifters instead of right wing terrorists. We've had 300+ attacks, a number deadly, against women's health clinics since the 70s, fascist thugs attacking power grids, mass shooters in schools, meanwhile warrantless surveillance keeps missing all that until long after people get hurt or killed.

@futurebird @jbrownesq

Oh yes. White shooters are always described as quiet and people say they never could see it coming.

@futurebird Sure. But the fascist state is already moving to lionize him and make it sound like he was their Best Boy. This is Horst Wessel shit.

@jbrownesq

Even the ADL had a file on the guy for violent rhetoric. This is the "I don't feel safe if the pilot flying the plane is black" guy. Very racist, anti semetic, anti Arab, hated immigrants, wanted women to be put back in a box. His death doesn't erase how he choose to live his life.

It's horrible that there are so many shootings in public places. None of us should have to put up with it. Especially school children. And now it seems they can't even catch this most recent shooter.

@futurebird @jbrownesq Agreed. #charliekirk died for your right to see the #epstein files.

@phaedral @jbrownesq

Don't try to make me like him.

@futurebird @jbrownesq Far from it! He was as overtly and completely evil as anybody who comes to mind that isn't named Steven Miller or Rush Limbaugh or Steve Bannon or Donald Trump. But you get the point. Think of it as a slogan for pwning the Republicans.