Banned from Lefty Memes for not agreeing with the complexity of Stalin *having* to ally with Hitler to invade Poland.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52771657

Banned from Lefty Memes for not agreeing with the complexity of Stalin *having* to ally with Hitler to invade Poland. - Divisions by zero

Apparently I’m now a shitlib for not buying into this disgusting tankie propaganda that it was all the Wests fault and Stalin had to ally with Hitler. For a mod who loves to ban others for bad jacketing, they sure have no problem doing it to other anarchists. The Ban: [https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/2582c55b-d28a-45e1-8723-52a159f0ae20.webp] The Context: [https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/0b660c79-5faa-4669-89bd-639987323941.webp]

There was way more nuance to the situation. The moderator linked a good summary of the false equivalence, as well as the extra context.

you showed up to be like: “fucked up, tankie defending Nazi alliance” as if history began and ended in 1939.

YDI, I can see how you ended up a ‘world news’ moderator though

tankie punks fuck off
I’m actually an anarchist, but you’re gonna use whatever pejorative makes you comfortable

You just like to say you are. You’re anti-ukraine and from russia. You put up more tankie posts and anti-dem posts than anything critical of the repubs.

You’re a tankie.

The reason I am often pissed at the democrats is due to how bad they are at actually opposing the republicans.

You’re just a ‘team blue’ maga type

Lol you clearly don’t know me, scan through my posts and see if you think I’m blue maga or whatever the fuck. I fall more on the social libertarian side than anything else. I’m very critical of the dems, but I’m not also a fucking idiot who thinks that the fascist shit pile we currently have is somehow the same as the dems by any means. The dems haven’t gone full fascist… it’s pretty clear they’d also not be destroying the US or harming it’s allies…and would be supporting Ukraine. Something you clearly are against…so to me you’re a tankie who sides with maga and fascist.

Palestine is not a race, and Islam is %100 transphobic and the main religion practiced there (98% of the population).

“I’m not racist because Islam isn’t a race”

Palestine would wipe Israel and every jew off the planet if they had the ability to. Not saying what Israel is doing is right, but acting like the other side is without fault is disingenuous.

Yeah you’re pretty much what I would categorize as blue maga, chauvinist, racist, but team red ‘disgusts’ you. Clearly team blue would be managing the empire better so that it could stay ‘great’

The Palestinian activists fighting for LGBTQ+ rights against a neverending backdrop of war - Lemmy.World

Lemmy

“I’m not racist because Islam isn’t a race”

Not to shine too bright a light on this, but you kinda have a habit of finding a single sentence that out-of-context supports your position and then jumping the gun by citing it. Did you read the immediately previous sentence, where they provide that quote as a clarification of their pro-palestine position and then go on to repeatedly defend Palestinian lives and decry the actions of Israel despite their (Palestinian) religion’s general stance on the LGBTQ+ or other political and social issues?

You don’t label a civilian death as a hate crime just because they’re a certain race or gender. So no you’re statement is blatantly false.

Honestly I don’t know how well I’d get along with SupraMario - But this is beside that issue: it’s aggravating as heck to see these comments. You’re clearly intelligent, but you’re just too eager to respond and it keeps making you look foolish. If you’d just slow down a little and get the context in which things are said, you’d be a much more persuasive advocate for your beliefs.

the original comment they responded to in that thread was this:

Israel is probably the nr. 1 murderer of trans people in the world right now. Get your priorities straight.

moving the goal posts to ‘hate crime’ doesn’t change that point.

‘Israel’ and its US accomplices are the #1 murderer of trans people in the world right now, statistically speaking.

SupraMario can say that that israel ‘sucks’, but then redirecting to ‘but hamas,’ or ‘Islam in general bad’ doesn’t bolster that position. Maybe they actually don’t like seeing US taxes get turned into dead children, but considering how strongly they feel that the west is best I’m not holding out hope.

Says the person literally doing a “but Ukraine, Nazis” so russia ok to kill and take over Ukraine.

I’m actually opposed to all inter-capitalist conflicts. Ukraine may have a bunch of Nazi gangs running wild, but I don’t think it’s ‘ok’ to invade. It just gets more people killed and the situation spirals out of anyone’s control. I can understand the rationale, but there’s also other motivations.

got any more thoughts to share about anarchists, or maybe thoughts about NATO destroying Libya or US invading Iraq?

I can understand the rationale, but there’s also other motivations.

Lol what the fuck

Nazis gangs running around killing people with no prosecution is bad; a brave take I know.

There’s plenty of reasons Russian capitalists go along with this and it’s not because they’re opposed to nazis on principle.

How is this difficult to understand?

Nazi gangs running around killing people with no prosecution is bad; a brave take I know. Invading to ‘stop’ them is also bad.

There’s plenty of reasons Russian capitalists go along with the invasion and it’s not because they’re opposed to nazis on principle.

Fuckin tankies…none of this is fucking true at all. It’s an excuse to invade… Ukraine had/has a large population of Jewish people living there calling it home. There were no nazi roaming gangs killing people without prosecution. The fuck did you get this from “russian tankie today”?