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Grainne Sep 7, 2025

Banned from Lefty Memes for not agreeing with the complexity of Stalin *having* to ally with Hitler to invade Poland.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52771657

Banned from Lefty Memes for not agreeing with the complexity of Stalin having to ally with Hitler to invade Poland. - Divisions by zero

Apparently I’m now a shitlib for not buying into this disgusting tankie propaganda that it was all the Wests fault and Stalin had to ally with Hitler. For a mod who loves to ban others for bad jacketing, they sure have no problem doing it to other anarchists. The Ban: [https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/2582c55b-d28a-45e1-8723-52a159f0ae20.webp] The Context: [https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/0b660c79-5faa-4669-89bd-639987323941.webp]

Diva (she/her)Sep 7, 2025

There was way more nuance to the situation. The moderator linked a good summary of the false equivalence, as well as the extra context.

you showed up to be like: “fucked up, tankie defending Nazi alliance” as if history began and ended in 1939.

YDI, I can see how you ended up a ‘world news’ moderator though

SupraMario Sep 7, 2025

Please move to russia or NK. You tankies enjoying western civ while shouting down at how evil we are, is rich.

The USSR killed millions even after the war, it was a shit place with dictators leading it. They were no better than the nazis. Stop rewriting history.

masquenox Sep 7, 2025

Just because we dunk on tankies here doesn’t mean we approve of white… oops, sorry, I meant to say “western” - civilisation.

Okay?

Western civ like it or not has pulled more people out of poverty than any other civ in human history. It’s hella flawed and it requires guidance to grow and get better but that’s the whole damn point of a civilization.

You, anarchist, seem to think societies are going to magically swap over to hippie communities and everyone will share everything and be happy to not work ever again. It’s like you assume a home can be built without a foundation. I honestly don’t understand how it’s popular to people over the age of 18.

masquenox Sep 7, 2025

Western civ like it or not

Yeah, all the shantytowns around these parts with sewage floating through the streets attests to that wonderful statement of yours.

get better but that’s the whole damn point of a civilization.

Your precious white… oops, sorry, meant to say “western” again… civilisation has had hundreds of years to stop being a laboratory for horror and deprivation - at this point, it’s perfectly clear that all this is the point.

It’s like you assume a home can be built without a foundation

Not like you, huh? With your fancy foundation built on millions of corpses?

I honestly don’t understand how it’s popular to people over the age of 18.

Because not everybody over the age of 18 automatically degenerates into a spineless bootlicker - must be news to you, huh?

SupraMario Sep 7, 2025

Every society has its horrors. People suck and people who don’t usually aren’t gravitated towards power.

Please explain how anarchist would magically make those who want to lead for power less likely to do so?

masquenox Sep 7, 2025

Every society has its horrors.

Not a valid defence - neither does it distract from your ludicrously false statements.

Please explain

What makes you think anyone here owes a colonialism apologist any kind of explanation?

SupraMario Sep 8, 2025

Lol yea that’s the excuse. No one owes our little bullshit plan for society an explanation. Move somewhere else please, just leave Western society since it’s sooooo bad.

masquenox Sep 8, 2025

Lol yea that’s the excuse.

It’s not an excuse, it’s a question. It’s fine… don’t answer it - you ducking and diving it is all the answer we have ever needed.

If you don’t want to answer that, perhaps try answering this one - how long do you think it’ll take before people forget about the “west’s” latest genocide over there in Gaza?

SupraMario Sep 8, 2025

I asked you the question, and you dodged it with a bullshit whataboutism. Because you can’t answer it.

You really think that a collapse of western civ will stop wars and death and make the world a more peaceful place? You must be huffing something really strong to believe that.

When do you think china will stop the genocide of the Uyghurs?

People are protesting and being arrested trying to stop the gaza genocide and it’s in the news constantly. I don’t think it’ll stop being an issue for a good while. Israel is a state that should never have been built.

Now that I’ve answered your question, answer mine.

masquenox Sep 8, 2025

I asked you the question,

No… you demanded an explanation that you don’t deserve. And you still don’t deserve it.

Colonialism apologists don’t get to demand anything here.

western civ will stop wars and death

Is that the best defense of white supremacism you can manage? “If we didn’t do it, somebody else would have?”

Where did you get that? PragerU?

Israel is a state that should never have been built.

So now your “if we didn’t do it, somebody else would have” schtick doesn’t apply, eh?

So what about the white supremacist states that taught those Zionists the means and methods of “western civilisation,” eh? The same white supremacist states that continue to fund Israel’s genocide to the hilt?

Should THEY have been built?

SupraMario Sep 8, 2025

No… you demanded an explanation that you don’t deserve. And you still don’t deserve it.

Lol so yea you don’t have an answer because as typical you live in a little bubble that wouldn’t ever work. Got it.

Colonialism apologists don’t get to demand anything here.

Yea totally an apologist for…what? I’ve called out all the horror every country everywhere has done…

Is that the best defense of white supremacism you can manage? “If we didn’t do it, somebody else would have?”

The fuck are you on about? First off… I’m not white. Secondly trying to conflate colonialism with white is dumb as fuck. You do realize that multiple ethnicities have done horrific shit to others right?

You gonna fit in there about Japan in WWII? Or China today? Or do those not count cause they’re not west and white?

Where did you get that? PragerU?

Lol you really don’t know who you’re even arguing with.

So now your “if we didn’t do it, somebody else would have” schtick doesn’t apply, eh?

Lol how did you even come to that conclusion.

So what about the white supremacist states that taught those Zionists the means and methods of “western civilisation,” eh? The same white supremacist states that continue to fund Israel’s genocide to the hilt?

Lol you don’t even know the history of fucking Israel lol

Should THEY have been built?

Ah more “I’m 18 and this is deep”.

Kid, one day you might grow up and realize that not everyone will magically get along with a hippie commune

masquenox Sep 8, 2025

Lol so yea

Which part of…

Colonialism apologists don’t get to demand anything here.

…didn’t you understand the first time around?

Yea totally an apologist for…what?

This you?

Western civ like it or not has pulled more people out of poverty

I could have sworn that was you, doing apologism for white - oops, sorry, meant to say “western” again - civilisation right there.

I’m not white.

So, again… is that the best defense of white supremacism you can manage? “If we didn’t do it, somebody else would have?”

Ah more

So white supremacist genocide is not okay as long as it’s only Israel doing it?

SupraMario Sep 8, 2025

Lol you must really be a teenager…listen kid when you do finally get out into the big world, you’re going to realize not everyone is out to get you, and that people just want to survive. Not everything is a white supremacy conspiracy.

masquenox Sep 9, 2025

So, just for the record - this was YOU…

Western civ like it or not has pulled more people out of poverty

…blatantly performing apologetics for white supremacism, correct?

You aren’t claiming that somebody put words in your mouth or hacked your account or blaming autocorrect?

SupraMario Sep 9, 2025

Lol that’s not being apologetic, that’s literally the truth. You literally cannot back up any shit you have said because you think everyone who isn’t some anarchist is magically a white apologist for capitalism. No where in any of my posts have I said the system is perfect. No where in any of my posts said it doesn’t need improvement.

But your entire argument has been to deflect questions, and babble about white supremacy…

If you’re unable to refute my points and answer my questions then we’re done here. I’m getting bored arguing with someone who lives in a western society and thinks it and it’s people are white supremacists. That’s childish and shows why no one takes you seriously.

masquenox Sep 9, 2025

Soooo, just for the record - this is YOU…

Lol that’s not being apologetic, that’s literally the truth.

…doubling down on your blatant apologetics for white supremacism?