Canadian CurmudgeonSep 6, 2025
Marx was right.
Show threadJacqueline

@CdnCurmudgeon

Marx was right about almost everything and it's so depressing that everyone thinks of him as some evil guy when he really wasn't.

Did he have some bad views? Yes! A lot of those were a product of his time, but they were still kinda bad and don't need to be defended.
But those were in his letters, and maybe 1 or 2 minor essays he published. Doesn't make the rest of what he said bad.

Sep 6, 2025 at 12:52pmWeb
Show threaddog and the plateSep 6, 2025
@burnoutqueen @CdnCurmudgeon Communist manifesto is shit too.
Show threadCanadian CurmudgeonSep 6, 2025
@livinghell @burnoutqueen
The Communist Manifesto has valid content, if you understand that Marx was writing >150 years ago and the world he describes has radically altered beyond anything Marx imagined. Still, there are valid statements and concerns in it, though, that are relevant to today's predatory capitalism.
Show threaddog and the plateSep 7, 2025
@CdnCurmudgeon @burnoutqueen Productivism was always a misguided approach. With modern science we know just how suicidal it is. Concept of a historically progressive bourgeoisie is also worth reconsideration.
Show threadsilhouette   Sep 6, 2025
@burnoutqueen @CdnCurmudgeon who TF thinks of Karl friggin Marx as an "evil guy"? (It's Americans, isn't it)
Show threadJacquelineSep 6, 2025

@silhouette @CdnCurmudgeon

I'm talking about Americans

Show threadEvan LightSep 6, 2025
@silhouette @burnoutqueen @CdnCurmudgeon As an American, oh, yes, it's a lot of Americans. "Socialism" is an "evil" word to most Americans—even though they have no idea what socialism is and how they already benefit from our (currently extremely weak) social support systems here.
Show threadWalrus 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿Sep 6, 2025

@elight @silhouette @burnoutqueen @CdnCurmudgeon

Many decades of dumbing down your education system is really paying off for the fascists...

Show threadEvan LightSep 6, 2025
@Walrus @silhouette @burnoutqueen @CdnCurmudgeon GenX here. We had Government class that taught us how things were supposed to work in this country. And, JFC, we are so far from that now.
Show threadEvan LightSep 6, 2025

@Walrus @silhouette @burnoutqueen @CdnCurmudgeon Like "checks and balances".

How do those even work?

Well, Little Joey, in 2025, the answer is that they don't!

Show threadEvan LightSep 6, 2025
@Walrus @silhouette @burnoutqueen @CdnCurmudgeon BTW, that's not performative for the internet. I actually talk like this.
Show threadInc Hulk 🧪Sep 6, 2025
@elight @silhouette @burnoutqueen @CdnCurmudgeon In that respect, it would be accurate to say that many (if not most) Americans are ignorant.
Show threadEvan LightSep 6, 2025
@IncHulk @silhouette @burnoutqueen @CdnCurmudgeon Sadly, agreed.
Show threadCanadian CurmudgeonSep 6, 2025
@elight @silhouette @burnoutqueen
In my long experience, most Americans (and few Canadians) understand what 'socialism' is, and have been taught to associate it with communism. Yet pensions, parks, libraries, public utilities, universal healthcare, environmental protection, air traffic controllers... they are all thanks to socialism.
Show threadEvan LightSep 6, 2025

@CdnCurmudgeon @silhouette @burnoutqueen That is, you mean that they have been taught to associate it with 'communism'. The negation in your first clause can easily be read to apply it to the second.

I agree on all counts. And it's frustrating.

Show threadEvan LightSep 6, 2025
@CdnCurmudgeon @silhouette @burnoutqueen pensions means "social security" here. And one party has been seeking to kill it since its inception.
Show threadcrispy branzino ☭ (sold out forever)Sep 6, 2025
@silhouette @burnoutqueen @CdnCurmudgeon "Marx was right."

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Show threadCanadian CurmudgeonSep 6, 2025
@silhouette @burnoutqueen
Decades of the Soviets promoting Marxist-Leninist ideology created the false belief they two were alike, and only after the fall of the USSR was Marx able to be freed from that association. Now we can assess his views independently.